Winter wheat yields

[willy]

And Bull Sh1t

 

[teslacoils]

But its not about our harvest, its about the world harvest and global S & D.

And the scale of imports we may require. Importing 1m tons Vs 5m tons is quite a different thing. I'm not sure China will be sending us any.

 

[bankrupt]

A higher % of spring crops is in trouble

Same here, Brisel.

All the little bit of rain we've recently had's just accelerated the ear emergence on our SO without much effect on increasing the straw.

I'll try to put up a pic here tomorrow adequately illustrating this problem, to scale, if by then I can find an appropriately short spanner.

 

[teslacoils]

Spring oats ear emerged. Roughly 13" high. No sprays. 140kg farm saved undressed seed. 25 cube digestate.

 

[bankrupt]

13" high.

Luckily, I've just managed to turn up a 14" spanner.

 

[teslacoils]

Well, all in all we have had an inch now since Tuesday night. Not that you can tell much by waling on the soil. But I'd say we're likely to cut at least some of the oats and barley now. Maybe 4t/ha?

 

[B'o'B]

And Bull Sh1t

Always good for raising yields, both applied to fields or in a pub!

 

[Cowcorn]

Well, all in all we have had an inch now since Tuesday night. Not that you can tell much by waling on the soil. But I'd say we're likely to cut at least some of the oats and barley now. Maybe 4t/ha?

Go on say five ton, even @Clive is talking about making a profit Austrailian style whatever that turns out . Thats a fair turnaround from not been worth cutting last week. A little rain lifts the spirits and hopefully yields
Unfortunately i have not shared in the rain only had a fizz here so no improvement in spring crops . Winter crops seem better but only the combine will tell.

 

[teslacoils]

Go on say five ton, even @Clive is talking about making a profit Austrailian style whatever that turns out . Thats a fair turnaround from not been worth cutting last week. A little rain lifts the spirits and hopefully yields
Unfortunately i have not shared in the rain only had a fizz here so no improvement in spring crops . Winter crops seem better but only the combine will tell.

No, I'm thinking back to 2018. May planted oats had 30mmof rain in total. Admittedly planted into moisture. Cut exactly three months later. Best fields did 5t/ha. Poorest did 4. This time I will hedge my bets and cut the poorest for silage to get some ground cleared.

 

[midlandslad]

Surely the next problem if this weather keeps up is going to be not getting the sunlight to generate the yield?

 

[Renaultman]

Surely the next problem if this weather keeps up is going to be not getting the sunlight to generate the yield?

This is what I am worrying about

 

[Clive]

could be a good year yield wise in scotland after that rain, the odd bare patch on endrigs but wheat and spring crops looking good all over from what ive seen, could be more an average year for uk rather than the record low people were predicting last week?

still say UK will be record low wheat and osr yields this year

sub 7 million t wheat and 500k t osr

rain to late for most and still a sh!t autumn / winter / spring however you look at it

 

[T Hectares]

With a slight danger of going off thread ?
What's people's experiences with Elicit this year??
Last year it looked scruffy all season and although it yielded fine it seemed to put many off from growing it again, so this year in the "growing year from hell" it looks really well, almost revelling in the challenging conditions !!
God knows why??

 

[David.]

My best looking couple of bits are Elicit.
Firefly looks right enough, but shorter, not encouraging if long straw indicates, as used to be said, drought tolerance.
Barrel high yellow rust pressure, had its day.
Generally dislike KWS, all big advertising bluster, but here today gone tomorrow varieties.

 

[Flat 10]

With a slight danger of going off thread ?
What's people's experiences with Elicit this year??
Last year it looked scruffy all season and although it yielded fine it seemed to put many off from growing it again, so this year in the "growing year from hell" it looks really well, almost revelling in the challenging conditions !!
God knows why??
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Looked ok last year and nice this year but not as good as skyscraper adjacent.

 

[Flat 10]

My best looking couple of bits are Elicit.
Firefly looks right enough, but shorter.
Barrel high yellow rust pressure, had its day.
Generally dislike KWS, all big advertising bluster, but here today gone tomorrow varieties.

How funny. I prefer kws varieties.

 

[Clive]

How funny. I prefer kws varieties.

KWS varieties always seem to do best here as well

 

[T Hectares]

Barrel has been an absolute star here for 4 years, drilled later on a cold late farm it has none of the disease issues it's rating would suggest and yields well with good quality

Probably all Firefly and Elicit next year without CTL though

 

[Chalky]

Interestingly here any variety I have(and mirrored by agronomist on other farms with similar trait vars), with good septoria resistance; Sundance & Firefly here- extase & siskin elsewhere( and to a degree graham) all seem unfazed by the sowing(if awful) and subsequent wet then drought. Unfazed in relation to other varieties especially Kinetic(we have loads due to sowing dressed seed before spring within group-dont ask) and to a lesser extent skyscraper-that looks fine, just not thriving.Have other growers noticed that cleaner, though not 'top of the shop yield' varieties are more phsiologically robust(stable??) than their Formula 1 counterparts??

 

[charlie81]

Second year here with Elicit. Not a pretty variety in the spring, seems to get yellow tips when stressed and especially after Pacifica application. Firefly in next door field with same treatment wasn't affected. Looks ok now but much prefer the look of Firefly, which also has a slightly less curled flag in this drought. Will see if the combine agrees.