Worlds gone f***ing mad!

[FonterraFarmer]

There is some comfort to be had knowing there is at least one other country wankey - er than our own.

Don't judge a country by the wànkèrs in parliament and that bìtch PM Ardern!!!




Appologies if the predictive text changed my words.

 

[Farmer 83563]

Think that’s the plan isn’t it?

Hungry folk be more receptive to Quorn, Beyond Meat and insect protein.

Nah, the fake meat revolution is f**ked... negative growth and massive losses even before energy costs doubled.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Beginning to have the feeling that other than Thatcher electing a woman premier might not be the smartest idea!

No sh!t Sherlock, we figure that out about 20 years ago....

 

[FonterraFarmer]

Give it a week, the NFU and AHDB will be calling for our burp tax to be higher because we care more.

One of my cousins probably was involved in that research years ago, and now has her own flock of sheep.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

It ain’t passed but it looks grim. Y’all should check out the He waka eke noa recommendation report as well. Still looking through it.


I’m very disappointed in Dairy NZ. Compliance will get you nowhere. This type of regulation is based on a lie and there is a massive difference between a government setting and regulating “emissions” and doing it as an industry to meet “consumer demand”. I would have thought an organization that was supposed to represent farmers could have done a better job of representing farmers. Don’t play their stupid games.
I couldn’t say what would have been a better tactic but bending over and pulling your pants down for jacinda doesn’t looks like a good effort.

 

[FonterraFarmer]

IPCC: Warming effect of methane likely to be significantly overstated

The global warming effect of methane could be overestimated by as much as three or four times, according to a major international climate report published

www.agriland.ie

How can the likes of the UN influence government policies when the data currently is incorrect and conclusions flawed based on science???
And what accountabliy is there for governments who knowingly use false information to dictate mitigation intentionally for financial gain???

 

[Dave6170]

NZ gone fecking nuts!

 

[melted welly]

Nah, the fake meat revolution is f**ked... negative growth and massive losses even before energy costs doubled.

They’re not gonna go quietly though, gonna be flinging as much shite about as possible.

 

[glasshouse]

Beginning to have the feeling that other than Thatcher electing a woman premier might not be the smartest idea!

Thatcher ruined britain
She would never have got re elected in 83 if shehadnt caused the falklands war and won it

 

[FonterraFarmer]

NZ gone fecking nuts!

Only the leftards.

 

[CopperBeech]

So it would make sheep with genetically lower methane emissions quite valuable wouldn’t it ?

 

[S J H]

I have recently started working part-time for a tree planting charity offering grants to farmers to plant trees on unproductive or awkward sites or to plant new hedgerows where appropriate. Many of the farmers who approach us have $$ signs in their eyes at the thought of cashing in the carbon credits from any tree planting they carry out. We always advise against it on the grounds that
a. once sold they are gone and the price is almost guaranteed to go up massively in coming years, so unless you need the money just register them and hang on tight, and
b. I tell them there is a fair chance that somewhere round the corner a carbon tax is coming onto agriculture and and carbon credits you can generate would count towards offsetting it.

It will be (b) they’ll take the opportunity from us to capitalise on it. I know it’s a bullshite scheme, but we should be in charge to sell these credits.

 

[essexpete]

Carbon tax coming on to Agriculture? .... the world will be hungry very soon and things will change pretty quick when the sh!t hits the fan!

It certainly does look that way.
I did not read the whole thing but is the immense NZ grassland not taken into account when it grows there for most of the year absorbing utilising CO2?

 

[kiwi pom]

Only the leftards.

I'm not so sure, look at all the companies buying farmers produce, they're all pushing the green agenda quite hard.
We talked about Tatua yesterday, have a look at their website, you'll see words like sustainability, environment and greenhouse gases.
Mrs KP works for a global processor, much of her work (had a 90 min call with the UK side last night) is around sustainability and carbon footprint.
Being "green" is a very big industry now.

The greens think we're not going anywhere near far enough and they seem to get more votes all the time.
I don't know where it will end.

 

[CopperBeech]

In theory you should be able to breed animals which are lower methane producers. They want a reduction in animal ag in order to drop methane emissions ...... we all know that’s shite but you have to play the game. So they want less animals for less methane, so let’s try same number or more animals, less methane. And now let’s get their house in order ?

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I'm not so sure, look at all the companies buying farmers produce, they're all pushing the green agenda quite hard.
We talked about Tatua yesterday, have a look at their website, you'll see words like sustainability, environment and greenhouse gases.
Mrs KP works for a global processor, much of her work (had a 90 min call with the UK side last night) is around sustainability and carbon footprint.
Being "green" is a very big industry now.

The greens think we're not going anywhere near far enough and they seem to get more votes all the time.
I don't know where it will end.

Is being green an actual trend or just a fashionable misconception or deception?
It's all very easy especially for politicians to talk about being "green", but how seriously can you take a politician who's previous job revolved around the discretionary use of non renewable fossil fuels???
Or a Green MP who uses air travel extensively yet does nothing to reduce its use or personally/physically to mitigate it??

 

[The Seeker]

Can’t wait till the day we get to say “ we told you so” what I ever get is how money tax offsets carbon ??? Are the notes think carbon wedges ?? What a load of horse poo, we are 5 years away from a mini world melt down / if not sooner

 

[FonterraFarmer]

I'm not so sure, look at all the companies buying farmers produce, they're all pushing the green agenda quite hard.
We talked about Tatua yesterday, have a look at their website, you'll see words like sustainability, environment and greenhouse gases.
Mrs KP works for a global processor, much of her work (had a 90 min call with the UK side last night) is around sustainability and carbon footprint.
Being "green" is a very big industry now.

The greens think we're not going anywhere near far enough and they seem to get more votes all the time.
I don't know where it will end.

It's not going to end well, any government that dividing society and negatively destructing infrastructure with undemocratic control will eventually reap what it sows....
You can't control the world or a country with bulls**t for ever.
Dinners on me next time I come past, and no not the pie shop either.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Methane is cyclical. Providing the number of cows and sheep numbers remains relatively unchanged they do not contribute to increased atmospheric methane, only replace what was produced by their ancestors!! Increased atmospheric methane is caused by new sources of methane, ie new gas boiler, gas power station, gas exploration, flights, increased population of farting humans (especially if vegan) and landfill. If tax is to slow the increase in atmospheric methane it has to hit these new sources but its so much easier to hit livestock producers.

Landfill is largely cyclical too but you’re otherwise bang on about new sources of methane. It’s the source that’s crucial, did it originate in atmospheric CO2 recently? No warming. Buried underground for 000s of millions of years? Entirely warming, irrespective of it being methane or whatever.

 

[DaveGrohl]

No VAT on food to help its affordability, but a carbon tax instead.

What do they propose doing with all the grass if ruminants don't eat it? Let it rot? Feed it to horses? Burn it? Feed it to an AD plant if the forager can negotiate hills?

And what they going to do with the rapeseed meal, or soyabean meal, or sunflower expeller, or palm kernel, or brewers grains, or maize gluten, or sugar beet pulp, or citrus pulp, or bread waste, or etc. Let it rot? Put it in the AD plant? Spread it on the land? Burn it?

Someone send them back to school to learn the carbon cycle.

Politicians (and seemingly farming representatives) don’t think about such things. It’s too complicated for them clearly.