Would you buy an electric vehicle POLL

[Poorbuthappy]

Using car batteries to buffer electricity demand…

Im sure that battery technology is coming on leaps and bounds, but as far as I understand one of the big downsides of EVs is that the batteries degrade and lose range over time, and may eventually need to be replaced. Is that purely an ‘age of battery’ thing or is it related to their use?

If, say, your battery is only good for 5000 charges, I’d be reluctant to hand control of my asset over to unknown businesses who could repeatedly charge, discharge and ‘age’ my asset. But then again maybe I misunderstand the technology?

Yes I'm thinking like that. But I'm sure I read some time ago that li-ion power tool batteries are better used regularly? So not sure which is better

 

[Highland Mule]

I think charging will be the issue. Not just because people that live in terraces have no idea where they will park from one day to the next but that charging will become the job of the employer. Charge your car at work and plug the house in at night. Sounds great unless you're the employer.

Wouldn’t get too excited. They’re changing to lamp posts with built in chargers in some parts of the country already. Seems sensible way to do it. Urban drivers do squat mileage anyway so shouldn’t really need to charge too often.

 

[HatsOff]

I think charging will be the issue. Not just because people that live in terraces have no idea where they will park from one day to the next but that charging will become the job of the employer. Charge your car at work and plug the house in at night. Sounds great unless you're the employer.

Costs £1k - £2k to provide a parking space for an employee anyway, depending where you are in the country. While the upfront charging infrastructure will be quite a lot (but will probably fall on the landlord for rented offices - i.e. most of them), the cost of the electricity could be clawed back, or done as a small benefit in kind.

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Using car batteries to buffer electricity demand…

Im sure that battery technology is coming on leaps and bounds, but as far as I understand one of the big downsides of EVs is that the batteries degrade and lose range over time, and may eventually need to be replaced. Is that purely an ‘age of battery’ thing or is it related to their use?

If, say, your battery is only good for 5000 charges, I’d be reluctant to hand control of my asset over to unknown businesses who could repeatedly charge, discharge and ‘age’ my asset. But then again maybe I misunderstand the technology?

Apparently life expired auto batteries will have a second life as domestic storage. As that youtube clip says.

 

[Dave645]

Using car batteries to buffer electricity demand…

Im sure that battery technology is coming on leaps and bounds, but as far as I understand one of the big downsides of EVs is that the batteries degrade and lose range over time, and may eventually need to be replaced. Is that purely an ‘age of battery’ thing or is it related to their use?

If, say, your battery is only good for 5000 charges, I’d be reluctant to hand control of my asset over to unknown businesses who could repeatedly charge, discharge and ‘age’ my asset. But then again maybe I misunderstand the technology?

When driving an EV it repeatedly charges and discharges, due to regenerative breaking, so it’s not cycles it’s more about the type of cycles, it’s the deep cycles up and down that can cause problems, and it’s more than easy to software set the type of charge and discharge rates and level, of charge and discharge you let it do, that and battery testing has shown that after 200k miles EV car batteries are still at over 90% capacity, so that’s with average use based on respected charge discharge with regenerative breaking on top of day to day recharging at home and fast charging.
My guess is it will be opt in vehicular to grid but with insentives if you take part in it.

 

[JeepJeep]

Yer looking there is 1 does 100 miles less but 100 a month less.


Went to Mercedes earlier to look a the e class estate diesel hybrid and fell in love I need one. Massive massive back order though

Pre Reg ones available at Nationwide Vehicle contracts depending what the options you'd like are. I'll look for the right specd used.

 

[Robt]

So with me being lazy whilst now realising I have to pay bik I seen that petrol cars produce more co2 per mile than diesel which is why they were pushing them in the past. So with this in mode how are diesel hybrids not more popular than a petrol

I looked at diesel hybrid. Merc e class was my fave. I just worry the BIk is going to increase . Will def have electric or hybrid next

 

[Tomr10]

I looked at diesel hybrid. Merc e class was my fave. I just worry the BIk is going to increase . Will def have electric or hybrid next

It's my front runner so far just need it to be in the scheme

The skoda is nice but it's not a merc

 

[Poorbuthappy]

It's my front runner so far just need it to be in the scheme

The skoda is nice but it's not a merc

Its still a big step up for most of us

 

[Tomr10]

Its still ability step up for most of us

Currently driving a car with 210k miles on it it will be a nice change whichever

 

[Poorbuthappy]

Currently driving a car with 210k miles on it it will be a nice change whichever

I see predictive text made a nonsense of my post. Corrected now.

 

[Tomr10]

I see predictive text made a nonsense of my post. Corrected now.

I got the intent

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Yes I'm thinking like that. But I'm sure I read some time ago that li-ion power tool batteries are better used regularly? So not sure which is better

Depends to an extent how they're charged. Running a Li-ion battery at between 20-80% they last well, even up to 90%.
Overcharging kills them relatively fast.

That said, the wee bike I've borrowed has maybe 80,000kms on it and the battery is fine, that's over 7½ years though, not 30

hopefully the new bike will see me out

@JP1 was interested to see the NZ pricing on these - this is the work bike (no indicators, mirrors etc) with the big battery - which I'll swap out for the smaller one, about $600 less

 

[JP1]

Depends to an extent how they're charged. Running a Li-ion battery at between 20-80% they last well, even up to 90%.
Overcharging kills them relatively fast.

That said, the wee bike I've borrowed has maybe 80,000kms on it and the battery is fine, that's over 7½ years though, not 30

hopefully the new bike will see me out

@JP1 was interested to see the NZ pricing on these - this is the work bike (no indicators, mirrors etc) with the big battery - which I'll swap out for the smaller one, about $600 less

So we’d get a road legal version for a bit more than that in the uk

 

[Kiwi Pete]

So we’d get a road legal version for a bit more than that in the uk

Yep, the adventure bike with the smaller battery is cheaper ($100) than the bare work bike with the bigger one.

 

[Tomr10]

Anybody have or had a. E 300de hybrid or a Kia Sorrento hybrid. Both recent models I know there both very different but my 2 front running options

 

[teslacoils]

Our leaf has just ticked over 100,000 miles.

 

[Tomr10]

This is an interesting idea

ZipCharge reveals ‘portable’ electric car charging station | Auto Express

The ZipCharge Go is a travel case sized charging station that provides 8kWh of power and will be priced similarly to a home wallbox

www.autoexpress.co.uk

 

[Dave645]

Anybody have or had a. E 300de hybrid or a Kia Sorrento hybrid. Both recent models I know there both very different but my 2 front running options

Personally unless your doing large daily mileage, that even the better EV’s cannot do with only one short charge I would go full electric.
if you are doing high daily mileages over 300 miles then look at the clip, don’t fall in the trap of one of these mild higbrids, that cost the earth and deliver very little.
A pure EV is very simple, a hybrid is not, they have far more components and points of fail, compared to an EV

as far as EV’s go it’s about efficiency, not battery size some cars with big batteries get less range, because they are less efficient.

 

[Tomr10]

Personally unless your doing large daily mileage, that even the better EV’s cannot do with only one short charge I would go full electric.
if you are doing high daily mileages over 300 miles then look at the clip, don’t fall in the trap of one of these mild higbrids, that cost the earth and deliver very little.
A pure EV is very simple, a hybrid is not, they have far more components and points of fail, compared to an EV

as far as EV go it’s about efficiency, not battery size some cars with big batteries get less range, because they are less efficient.

The new y is on my list to look at now