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JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
Because 'blue lights' never have accidents........ :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

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They do. One of the poor things from the Sheehy report (in my book) was the assumption that panda car fast response = traffic car fast response

As with all drivers, the faster one travels the higher the probability of an RTC

A response driver would have to justify more than a civilian during an investigation
 

Old Tup

Member
Cartgate Roundabout on the A303 has seen 3 artic units on their side this year so its not only the tractor boys !! Ohhh and one 200 yards up from the roundabout who ended up in the ditch on a straight bit of dual carriageway :oops:
Hmmmm
Meant HGV’s in general leading bales……
Pretty sure the number of loads and miles covered by HGV’s will easily exceed those covered by Farm vehicles.
Not sure if the load in the picture is four or five layers high……five sounds unlikely.
Bale Trailer on Springs as well….
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
They do. One of the poor things from the Sheehy report (in my book) was the assumption that panda car fast response = traffic car fast response

As with all drivers, the faster one travels the higher the probability of an RTC

A response driver would have to justify more than a civilian during an investigation

The question should always be, did you continue after the point at which you realised there was an unacceptable risk of an accident.
We all know we could get a puncture or something jump out in front of us at any moment [etc, etc.] but you can't drive every inch like this or you would never exceed 30mph.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
I honestly don't know but as a transport chap you can explain. I used to have 2wd tractors and trailers with no brakes but I find braking and looking ahead usually works these days. Running up a banking with a heavy machine and a braked empty trailer is surely just careless

I'll have a go/ guess.

That tractors top speed is probably 23mph ish so could have been going 'flat out' legally. [10% allowed for error margin and I'm not sure that 20mph is legally enforceable].
If something happened to make the driver 'dip' his clutch it could have soon 'got away' from him down the hill or have simply have something force him to go wide.

That's the point I've been trying to make. Where accidents seem most improbable is where you are most likely to be affected by something unforeseen.
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
The question should always be, did you continue after the point at which you realised there was an unacceptable risk of an accident.
We all know we could get a puncture or something jump out in front of us at any moment [etc, etc.] but you can't drive every inch like this or you would never exceed 30mph.
It's a balance. In my view the response driver who hit Sheena McDonald in a Met response driver in a sherpa van and caused her massive head injuries was lucky the way the judgement fell in the investigation. I actually think traffic police drivers responding are more risk averse and cautious than many panda cars you see flying about everywhere.

In my view I encounter idiots (mostly from local villages) on one rural road with no hope of stopping if they encountered an (expected) hazard on the road. It's always the same refrain "I was only doing 60" "I was under the speed limit".
"Yes you were still speeding"
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
It looks bad..... bad there's 100's of car/ truck/ motorbike accidents every day too. I wonder what percentage of road accidents are Ag related ?
3 bales high looks too much to me. Might even be 4 high ? The standard of HGV drivers I've seen in my own yard has been shocking recently. I don't think rules and licences are the answer. Maybe a speed and weight/ height limit ? I dunno.
 

Jackov Altraids

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Devon
Can’t believe certain Tff members condone these so called accidents,
Yes accidents happen,
But many could have been averted,

I don't know who is condoning accidents. There are many condemning drivers without any knowledge of what happened. Some of the drivers could be hero's for bringing a very dangerous situation that was not their fault, to a conclusion that avoided death or injury.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
I'll have a go/ guess.

That tractors top speed is probably 23mph ish so could have been going 'flat out' legally. [10% allowed for error margin and I'm not sure that 20mph is legally enforceable].
If something happened to make the driver 'dip' his clutch it could have soon 'got away' from him down the hill or have simply have something force him to go wide.

That's the point I've been trying to make. Where accidents seem most improbable is where you are most likely to be affected by something unforeseen.
or could have even had a mechanical issue
 

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