Yes or no to rms or cogent contract ai

[Drumdergfarm]

Hi
I’m currently looking into getting genus or cogent to do all the ai on the farm
All the cows and maiden heifers
What’s putting me of at the moment is that’s it’s another commitment financially
I’m not getting the results I want so that’s why I’m looking into it and what are other peoples thoughts who are carrying out atm
Many thanks

 

[Will Blackburn]

If it gets better results it will pay back handsomely.

 

[Bald n Grumpy]

If it gets better results it will pay back handsomely.

Depends why their not getting the results they want though doesn't it

 

[ploughman1963]

We went with Genus a few years ago now. Cheaper and better performance than employing an extra staff member, allowing staff to concentrate on other tasks. We had a 'blip' which was largely down to farm staff not communicating with Genus staff. Changes in staff mean performance figures (fertility) are top notch so well worth it.

 

[Sparkymark]

RMS will pay for itself with the improved preg rates and free up time.

 

[dinderleat]

Find a local independent chap

 

[frederick]

Hi
I’m currently looking into getting genus or cogent to do all the ai on the farm
All the cows and maiden heifers
What’s putting me of at the moment is that’s it’s another commitment financially
I’m not getting the results I want so that’s why I’m looking into it and what are other peoples thoughts who are carrying out atm
Many thanks

What's the five year cost difference nowadays between rms and diy ai with sensehub or cowmanager heat detection.

 

[TheRanger]

Last I heard these companies were wanting to move away from the RMS side of things and go to all collars, with tech just turning up and AI'ing instead of walking and chalking.

 

[dinderleat]

Genus have mad rms more expensive than their heat systems to cut down on work load for the techs

 

[Jamer]

Genus have mad rms more expensive than their heat systems to cut down on work load for the techs

It’s not just the contract charge when semen suppliers are providing the breeding service. The semen will be dearer because you have no choice. As said above, independent if you can find one.

 

[som farmer]

Find a local independent chap

l recommend phil bealing

 

[Kiss]

l recommend phil bealing

fair area he covers if he’s off to NI

 

[AGN76]

It’s not just the contract charge when semen suppliers are providing the breeding service. The semen will be dearer because you have no choice. As said above, independent if you can find one.

Or cheaper cos you buy more (all) semen from them?

 

[TheRanger]

Or cheaper cos you buy more (all) semen from them?

Genus sexed went down £6 per straw once I bought a batch off of Cogent and told them they were too dear, was all Genus before that.

 

[Philip Bealing]

Genus sexed went down £6 per straw once I bought a batch off of Cogent and told them they were too dear, was all Genus before that.

Are you suggesting that Genus were not giving you the best price for their bulls because they thought you were locked in to buying from them ?