YL Shares

[Howard150]

I picked up a pair of unused genuine YL 44 on eBay for £41 each. I thought that was pretty good as repros would have cost me £30 each. Incidentally if you took the £2 18 shillings from the above price list and used the RPI increase from 1945 to 2015 you get £112.90 per share, that would be a scary amount to pay. Just made the other night some wooden pegs for them. I'm told by a family member who used them commercially that as long as you don't reverse with the plough in the ground, which snaps the peg that they'll be fine. Personally I've gone with them as I don't fancy drilling, banging and screwing cast iron.

Go to any good DIY place and you can buy ready made 8mm wooden dowels which are harder than normal timber. Just knock them through when you want the share off and put another in when you replace it. Easy and just the right length. No need to drill or screw the cast which is ill advised. Bit like using old shares to split timber instead of using proper wedges.

Critical point is that the share needs to be a good fit on the frog. If it's slack it needs packing.

 

[John 1594]

So what if you happen to have steel shares then.....

the ones here are certainly steel, as the amount of hammering it took to get them off would have destroyed them if they were cast iron

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

So what if you happen to have steel shares then.....

the ones here are certainly steel, as the amount of hammering it took to get them off would have destroyed them if they were cast iron

they will be cast steel shares, and they really need to be a very good fit,
if they are slack they need some packing to hold them tight, pub beer mats is about the best as they stand a bit of moisture,
I use steel pins, 8mm rod ground to a tapper, dab of grease on them a knock them nearly home, cut off and knock them home,
I would never bolt the shares on, as they need to be that good of a fit, you would damage the threads putting them in

 

[Howard150]

So what if you happen to have steel shares then.....

the ones here are certainly steel, as the amount of hammering it took to get them off would have destroyed them if they were cast iron

Wooden pegs do non descriminate between steel and cast.

However make sure you wear good goggles when hammering shares. They might actually be cast.

 

[John 1594]

when the hole in the share is half inch, and the hole in the frog is a quarter of an inch, a bit of wood wont hold them

assuming the shares i have are of dubious quality, which no doubt they are...pulling them in with a 6mm bolt has held them tighter than knocking a peg in which will rattle round in the hole

as for taking the front one off at every start....

 

[Howard150]

when the hole in the share is half inch, and the hole in the frog is a quarter of an inch, a bit of wood wont hold them

assuming the shares i have are of dubious quality, which no doubt they are...pulling them in with a 6mm bolt has held them tighter than knocking a peg in which will rattle round in the hole

as for taking the front one off at every start....

Think you need to start a new page up John because 'Competition Ploughing' does not seem to be what you are about. Either that or you are on here pure and simply as a wind up.

Like I said earlier- wooden pegs have been good enough since 1834 and the only 1/2 inch holes I ever saw in shares were intended for plough bolts, not countersunk Allen head screws.

 

[John 1594]

Lets just say you have to sift through a lot of opinions to glean the information you need...

 

[Robertsskippyj]

So what if you happen to have steel shares then.....

the ones here are certainly steel, as the amount of hammering it took to get them off would have destroyed them if they were cast iron

If you have repros they will probably be steel though still cast. Genuine YL44 like I said I didn't fancy drilling etc will be cast Iron so have a decent chance of cracking or shattering. Ransomes made very few YL 44 in steel and these were distinguished by them being marked
YL44S, the S meaning steel.

 

[Robertsskippyj]

Go to any good DIY place and you can buy ready made 8mm wooden dowels which are harder than normal timber. Just knock them through when you want the share off and put another in when you replace it. Easy and just the right length. No need to drill or screw the cast which is ill advised. Bit like using old shares to split timber instead of using proper wedges.

Critical point is that the share needs to be a good fit on the frog. If it's slack it needs packing.

I cut to lots pieces and sanded down a length of 12mm diameter Oak, that I had left over so I'm pretty confident on how hard the pegs are.
What do people pack them with if needed?

 

[Howard150]

I cut to pieces and sanded down a length of 12mm diameter Oak, that I had left over so I'm pretty confident on how hard the pegs are.
What do people pack them with if needed?

As Pennine so rightly says, something that will stand a bit of moisture. Liner tray is only 0.4mm if you can find any, otherwise foil.

 

[rusty nuts]

Can you put a square peg in a round hole .

 

[Robertsskippyj]

Can you put a square peg in a round hole .

Yes if you can provide enough force. Lol.