Your views on lynx reintroduction.

djWilliams

New Member
Hello,

I am a student at Plymouth University and I am conducting a research project with the aim of better understanding attitudes towards lynx in the UK, now that a reintroduction is seemingly ever more possible. I believe that farmers, especially of livestock and gamekeepers, are an important stakeholder group to consider regarding the subject. I also believe it is important that farmer's views are represented as you are a group that may, in some way, interact with the species if a reintroduction occurs.

If you could take the time to complete my survey I would be extremely grateful, it should take around 5 minutes. The data collected will be treated with the strictest of confidence. It may be accessed using the link below:

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/VDJGJ2Y

Thank you.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Feral domestic and hybred wild cats were always easy to call to the lamp. I am sure lynx wouldn't be any different!

Not me, you understand. I can hardly wait to see the dear little things running around the Scottish countryside. But will there be anything left for them to eat after the sea eagles, badgers, and pine martins have had a meal?
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Feral domestic and hybred wild cats were always easy to call to the lamp. I am sure lynx wouldn't be any different!

Not me, you understand. I can hardly wait to see the dear little things running around the Scottish countryside. But will there be anything left for them to eat after the sea eagles, badgers, and pine martins have had a meal?

In every survey I've answered on the subject (including this one) I've said that any introduced species should be given the same legal status as a fox. That way landowners and managers can choose whether on not to have the animal on their land.
 

hilux

Member
Location
south Wales
As a farmer and father of two young children ,if any came near my farm they'd be shot on sight. What the hell do they think they are playing at? They lock up anybody who harms children or who is a threat to them, the f##king stupid barstewards what do they think they are playing at? No bloody sense at all and no thought. Just creating bloody jobs for themselves. No idea of potential damage to other people's lives .
I apologise for my rant , but it needs to be said.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
Hello,

I am a student at Plymouth University and I am conducting a research project with the aim of better understanding attitudes towards lynx in the UK, now that a reintroduction is seemingly ever more possible. I believe that farmers, especially of livestock and gamekeepers, are an important stakeholder group to consider regarding the subject. I also believe it is important that farmer's views are represented as you are a group that may, in some way, interact with the species if a reintroduction occurs.

If you could take the time to complete my survey I would be extremely grateful, it should take around 5 minutes. The data collected will be treated with the strictest of confidence. It may be accessed using the link below:

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/VDJGJ2Y

Thank you.
I am one of the very small minority of livestock farmers who think that reintroducing species made extinct is a good thing. The vast majority will not be convinced that the plan is any good because they are certain it will mean stock - i.e. lambs and possibly / probably adult sheep - will be lost, and they most certainly will. However, I think that the effect of predation on stock will be minimal and it is a price worth paying for righting a past wrong i.e. wiping out our native lynx population.

That written, learn lessons from the eagle fiasco in Scotland; the 'eco' dogmatists will have us believe that never a lamb is taken, this is simple dishonesty and it receives the scorn it deserves. Face facts, the lynxes will take some stock, so have an immediate and effective compensation scheme. This has all been discussed on the forum before, you might find the thread interesting.

I have completed the survey, good luck with your degree.
 
Sheep farming with predators is very difficult, you are lucky to not have many in the UK! Re-introducing them would be mad.

Every field we move sheep into we have to asses the predator situation. How many livestock guardian dogs are needed, and what type of fence. If using nylon, several dogs may be required because it won't keep predators out. Electric net fence is fairly effective against coyotes but not bears, etc..... My neighbour doesn't use dogs but brings her sheep up to the barn every night, I just heard she lost 8 to coyotes. Another neighbour lost 10 the year before.

Lynx may be a fairly insignificant predator but re-introducing them would open the door to much worse IMO....
 

Woolgatherer

Member
Location
Angus
ONE escaped lynx caused a furore earlier in the year, with people being advised to keep their children and pets indoors. So why deliberately introduce them with a view to them breeding? Are children not going to be able to go outside in the areas lynx are released in? What about when they establish and spread? This is not the same environment that it was many years ago when they were here, the U.K. Is much more populated now.
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
ONE escaped lynx caused a furore earlier in the year, with people being advised to keep their children and pets indoors. So why deliberately introduce them with a view to them breeding? Are children not going to be able to go outside in the areas lynx are released in? What about when they establish and spread? This is not the same environment that it was many years ago when they were here, the U.K. Is much more populated now.

Also, it won't be the same species being released. The British Lynx is extinct and has been for hundreds of years. The released individuals will come from a different area and maybe larger.

Look at the trouble the Americans are having with the foreign Mackenzie Valley wolf in the lower 48.
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
I am one of the very small minority of livestock farmers who think that reintroducing species made extinct is a good thing. The vast majority will not be convinced that the plan is any good because they are certain it will mean stock - i.e. lambs and possibly / probably adult sheep - will be lost, and they most certainly will. However, I think that the effect of predation on stock will be minimal and it is a price worth paying for righting a past wrong i.e. wiping out our native lynx population.

That written, learn lessons from the eagle fiasco in Scotland; the 'eco' dogmatists will have us believe that never a lamb is taken, this is simple dishonesty and it receives the scorn it deserves. Face facts, the lynxes will take some stock, so have an immediate and effective compensation scheme. This has all been discussed on the forum before, you might find the thread interesting.

I have completed the survey, good luck with your degree.

Don't tell me, you farm in the south of England and they'll be releasing the lynx north of the border a long way from you!:rolleyes:

You sound like a potential candidate for my campaign to reintroduce the threatened English Black Rat to it's native habitat in the centre of London, starting at Whitehall.

Will it be the same graduates assessing the damage lynx do who were reported as not being able to tell the difference between a young otter and a mink?
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
madness utter madness
maybe i was a bit hasty look at the success of the wild boar in the forest of dean and surrounding areas i mean no trouble/nuisance being caused there so this should carry on the wolf and the bear next then and maybe Darwin's theory will come into play cause the one s clambering for this reintroduction will be the first to want a cull ,not sure what the badger lovers will make of it but at least tb will be controlled not sure i like the replacements much though .



no i was right the first time madness
 

hilux

Member
Location
south Wales
If the lynx is reintroduced, what will be its natural predator? I know me and a few others on this forum.
Why were lynx made extinct in the first place?
I don't know why they don't just turn this island in to a Jurassic park as well!
 

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