I think all genuine Ransomes YL183 are Kristeel as are most of their boards from around 1920 on.I'm wrong I always thought yours were just the plain genuine ones.
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Fergie Ploughman
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That is one of my aims to get Genuine Ransomes Kristeel YL 183's. If I had your problem, like you had at the Nationals this year, I would blame the Reproduction mouldboards. I'm one of those people who blames their tools for not doing a good job. But I'm actually a useless ploughman. But when I look at good ploughmen like you or Bob you get on with Repro ones and Bob get's on with the plain Ransomes ones. So I think why do I need them. But I still fancy a pair just to try them out!!!!
I'm blamed everyone at the nationals, my plot was ****ing atrocious! (both before and after I ploughed it)
Something tells me it won't be plain sailing when I put them on, and they take years to bed in....
I need to fetch the paint of and set about polishing them up and get them in the ground....any ideas anyone ?
I'm blamed everyone at the nationals, my plot was ****ing atrocious! (both before and after I ploughed it)
Something tells me it won't be plain sailing when I put them on, and they take years to bed in....
Klingspor ACT ceramic abrasive discs. Use a flexible backing pad. Go for 80 & 120 grit. Don't waste time getting a polish with a buffer. Get through the hardening marks then get them in the ground. Be prepared to spend an hour or two per board. Keep away from the edges until you get the hang of it
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easy way to tell is repro boards dont have the spacer on the front bolt rivited on,
only ransome boards have that
only ransome boards have that
wilt434
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Some cheap flap discs that I bought off ebay Ive been using and they seem to be doing quite a good job but a lot of work and a lot of dust if they are a bit rusty. These were new old stock when I bought them but are slightly pitted and have some water rust marks on them.
Petetheploughman
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At least your not the only person that has had a bad experience at the nationals. How many times have you been to the Nationals before?I'm blamed everyone at the nationals, my plot was ****ing atrocious! (both before and after I ploughed it)
Something tells me it won't be plain sailing when I put them on, and they take years to bed in....
Petetheploughman
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That's the way get them like mirrors!!!!!!!!!!
Fergie Ploughman
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2009 was my first in Lincoln, done them all since then, came 4th in Staffs and 3rd in Hereford.
Fergie Ploughman
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Ok....I wondered about using my DA sander with fine pads???
They are brand new ex stock, so no pitting, just paint and fresh metal.
T'only place for a mirror is either over the fireplace, in the bathroom or in a woman's handbag.
A mirror shine is pointless. Soil polish is significantly different. Bright but not reflective in the same way as a mirror. Apparently soil polish leaves the surface covered in microscopic scratches.
Think you will find the DA is not aggressive enough Fergie. ACT discs are much stronger that DA discs
Fergie Ploughman
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Yep, logically in the line of soil flow I guess. My repros have cleaned up lovely over the years...
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your dead right, glazed bores in an engine is no good, same for boards, and boards are like shoes, never comfortable till there about knackered
Petetheploughman
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I've just been out in the yard and had a look at my YL 183's they have the Ransomes badge on AND THEY HAVE KRISTEEL!
Petetheploughman
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Thanks for that I'll have to find some clay ground. That is a very interesting thing what you said. I'll bear that in mind as that is thing that is worth knowing. Thanks
Think you will be surprised - nay - amazed at the difference between spurious and the real M'coy Difference is that Kristeel boards are much more rigid and do as you tell them whereas the copies tend to flex too much and the ground dictates what they do rather than them being boss of the job.
Three biggest differences are
Kristeel gives your work more uniformity
Kristeel gives your work a shine where spurious boards do not polish it as well.
Kristeel hardly ever sticks - can be a major problem in chalky wold land
Petetheploughman
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Your right!
That's fine for something straight out of the KV or Khun or GB factory. What most guys on here are talking about is something produced in the early eighties or before
Even previously unused Ransomes boards will by now be subject to stock rusting at best and will be marked once the protective coating (albeit 30 odd years old) is removed
Pitted boards are another problem. Best way with these is to shot blast them first to rid yourself of muck and dust. Kristeel is hard enough to stand this without any further damage. Weld all the pits up just enough to fill them. If you use a mig although it will not be as good as the original, it will be a meld of the two materials and will still function well.
Problem is when sanding Kristeel mouldboards is that the board can become work hardened and will then need to plough before it can be successfully sanded again. Beware of sanding or grinding too deep as you can actually go through the hardening. Beware also of flap wheels and discs as they can leave the surface uneven
Must say its been a long time since I had any new ransomes boards! About 40 years. I do remember that the paint was almost immoveable, plenty being left after a days work, and the green varnish underneath was just as bad, hence the paint stripper!
Those were the day though, I was given a set of new RND 119s, complete with all the bolts. No chance of that happening now!
Those were the day though, I was given a set of new RND 119s, complete with all the bolts. No chance of that happening now!
Fergie Ploughman
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Yes, these boards I have are green under the blue on the soil face, plus a good dose of real sticky nasty oil/grease/laquer or something - can't wait to strip it off and see what lies beneath! I'll stick some pics on if I ever get around to cleaning them...
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