Ransomes ts59 / robin 54a

[Massey_3115]

Quick question.

My robin has very good yl bodies etc, can I swap my yl frogs and bodies onto a ts59 frame which currently has epics? Or are the frogs a different design? Thanks

 

[Mydexta]

Yeah, take the 2 bolts that fix the frog to the leg out and they will bolt straight on to the other legs

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

they will swap straight over

 

[Massey_3115]

I'm just thinking that in the long term a ts59 is going to be a better plough to use than the robin.

 

[Petetheploughman]

I'm just thinking that in the long term a ts59 is going to be a better plough to use than the robin.

I don't like Robins because I don't find them heavy enough to get in hard ground. But don't listen to me as I don't know anything. It's all about what you get on better with. If you get on better with the TS 59 then use the TS 59. If you get on better with the Robin/ TS 54 then use the Robin. Richard Ingram uses a Robin and this year a TS 59 won the Nationals. I find it's all about the ploughmen and what your get on best with.

 

[Massey_3115]

I'm only doing it for fun as I enjoy using my tractor, so I like to hear views. I've got a TS54a, YL bodies with no depth wheel on my either my FE35 or 135, normally the 135 as it starts!!

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

I don't like Robins because I don't find them heavy enough to get in hard ground.

no good going to hard ground with worn points, need to be new, and its the suck on the point not the heavier plough that gets it in

 

[Massey_3115]

What do people think to this 59

Is it worth the money?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ransomes-Plough-TS59F-Match-Plough-Tractor-Mounted-/151861442589?

 

[Tonym]

What do people think to this 59

Is it worth the money?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ransomes-Plough-TS59F-Match-Plough-Tractor-Mounted-/151861442589?

No way is that a match plough. To be fair it is complete but you are only buying the frame discs and skimmers. epic 41k mouldboards are the work of the devil and their only value is per tonne.
With modifications and YL or TCN boards it could be a good plough but as it is it is way overpriced.

 

[Mydexta]

No way is that a match plough. To be fair it is complete but you are only buying the frame discs and skimmers. epic 41k mouldboards are the work of the devil and their only value is per tonne.
With modifications and YL or TCN boards it could be a good plough but as it is it is way overpriced.

I might be wrong, but I think it was epic 41s that win the vintage class at the Scottish championships a few weeks ago, beating some very stiff competition in Richard Ingram and Ian Simms

 

[Massey_3115]

Well as suggested the YL's off my robin would fit the 59 frame so the cost for me to improve in that department would be four bolts and two cat 1 pins.

 

[Howard150]

I might be wrong, but I think it was epic 41s that win the vintage class at the Scottish championships a few weeks ago, beating some very stiff competition in Richard Ingram and Ian Simms

Don't forget that Richard Ingram won the Classic class the day before using YL's on a Robin. If you are thinking of changing to a 59 then first consider the work that Richard does

The ground in Scotland probably suited either EPICS or the FRDCP's that Ian used. Different tale in England away from sandy light land. In gravelly hard packed land a YL will always penetrate. EPICS and FRDCP's as well as TCN's sometimes make heavy weather of this type of ground, much the same in dry hard packed ground in August or September

There was a great photo in the Yorkshire post last Saturday of Bob Newby using EPICS in the 50's. Really good work but the ground is significantly different now. Keep the YL's on your Robin and see how you go! Probably easier to make a depth wheel fo the Robin than alter the 59.

 

[arcobob]

About ten years ago when I started I replaced the epics on my Robin with YLs and put the epic bodies, in good condition, in Cheffins vintage sale. They made £25 the pair and were bought by Westlake. I doubt if they would make any more today.

 

[Massey_3115]

Well that would be my next question really of putting a depth wheel on a robin. Does any one have any pictures they could share? Or know of any forsale or can offer a mod?

 

[Boohoo]

I might be wrong, but I think it was epic 41s that win the vintage class at the Scottish championships a few weeks ago, beating some very stiff competition in Richard Ingram and Ian Simms

I can't comment on whether those were epics or not but there wasn't anything about that plot that caught my eye. It was judged by the higher scoring panel of judges and was only 1 point ahead of Richard. Ian was in the other class.

 

[Fergie Ploughman]

Couldn't wait to get rid of Epic's off my 54, used YL repro's for years, I now have a nice brand new ex stock pair of YL183 Kristeel's to fit . I'm sure Richard used repro's for a few years.

It does make me laugh how people refer to any old plough on ebay that its a "match plough"

 

[Massey_3115]

With the ts54a ploughs with YL bodies - what furrow width are you set up on?

 

[Petetheploughman]

Couldn't wait to get rid of Epic's off my 54, used YL repro's for years, I now have a nice brand new ex stock pair of YL183 Kristeel's to fit . I'm sure Richard used repro's for a few years.

It does make me laugh how people refer to any old plough on ebay that its a "match plough"

That is one of my aims to get Genuine Ransomes Kristeel YL 183's. If I had your problem, like you had at the Nationals this year, I would blame the Reproduction mouldboards. I'm one of those people who blames their tools for not doing a good job. But I'm actually a useless ploughman. But when I look at good ploughmen like you or Bob you get on with Repro ones and Bob get's on with the plain Ransomes ones. So I think why do I need them. But I still fancy a pair just to try them out!!!!

 

[arcobob]

That is one of my aims to get Genuine Ransomes Kristeel YL 183's. If I had your problem, like you had at the Nationals this year, I would blame the Reproduction mouldboards. I'm one of those people who blames their tools for not doing a good job. But I'm actually a useless ploughman. But when I look at good ploughmen like you or Bob you get on with Repro ones and Bob get's on with the plain Ransomes ones. So I think why do I need them. But I still fancy a pair just to try them out!!!!

Mine are Kristeel and wouldn`t use anything else.

With the ts54a ploughs with YL bodies - what furrow width are you set up on?

Ten inch.

 

[Petetheploughman]

Mine are Kristeel and wouldn`t use anything else.

I'm wrong I always thought yours were just the plain genuine ones.