Doesn't it have to be incorporated?!
Thought you had 24hrs or something?
What's the definition of a cultivation ? I plan to just roll !
Doesn't it have to be incorporated?!
Thought you had 24hrs or something?
You could fly over it with a combi then, do a great job! I can talk myself around in circles on this subject, I don't know about you? Agree with Static, no one plan suits or drill. And get a seeder for your subsoiler for rape, does a great job.I'd somehow forgotten it!
I think I would incorporate it after the OSR using the subsoiler with discs.
Already do rape like that off subsoiler - agree - fantastic job.You could fly over it with a combi then, do a great job! I can talk myself around in circles on this subject, I don't know about you? Agree with Static, no one plan suits or drill. And get a seeder for your subsoiler for rape, does a great job.
Its a feckin nightmare! I want no yield penalty but I want to save on fuel and some labour. Say I could save around 45l/ha in diesel by going strip til, that's about £29. But you do have some extra costs in sowing wheat earlier? And then there is blackgrass control. I wouldn't save any diesel on rape drilling though.Think pig muck would have to be incorporated with in 24hrs cus of the smell, similar but not as bad as chicken shite which feckin horrendous! If growing second wheat you would really have to apply latitude cus of earlier drilling?£30/haAlready do rape like that off subsoiler - agree - fantastic job.
I'm nearly dizzy I've been going in so many circles!
Just can't make my mind up!
Thing is that you could surely do your rotation with the kit you have already got? You could easily subsoil after the rape and drill as now, also WB after the beans. Saving you a pass is great, but seems like a lot of dosh for some new tin. I presume you are baling the cereal straw?
It's not a big leap if you are keeping existing kit. But sounds like you are weighing up the benefits to adding an expensive drill for a small saving in time and fuel over the area it would be used. And it is also not a drill that can be used in full zero-till if you want to later. Why not upgrade existing drill to a Moore or one of these fancy JD's, subsoil everything and use the disc drill after subsoiling and rolling?
My advice after 3 years of doing it is to forget it,the small savings you make will soon dissappear in slug pellets and yield loss.
If you have a lot of muck to incorporate then DD is out surely??? Agrilinc have a couple of 3m moores at the minute, could be a better bet for you to DD the bits you can and drill the rest conventionally. I certainly wouldn't spend on a new drill unless the whole lot could be done.
My advice after 3 years of doing it is to forget it,the small savings you make will soon dissappear in slug pellets and yield loss.
I don't think there is any drill that is perfect for all conditions and all crops in the rotation. I know exactly how you feel as I do the same, we all want to save time and fuel on establishment but IMO farming is like a set of scales and if you take costs off one side then all you do is move them to the other.I'm struggling to find a drill suitable to work in my current though.
Certainly not decided anything yet - considering all options!
I don't think there is any drill that is perfect for all conditions and all crops in the rotation. I know exactly how you feel as I do the same, we all want to save time and fuel on establishment but IMO farming is like a set of scales and if you take costs off one side then all you do is move them to the other.