A Blast from the Past 17 The Old Seed Fiddle

Owd Fred

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The old Seed Fiddle

He pushed and pulled the bow, with each stride he took,
For the seed must spread thinly, according to the book.​

I still have a seed fiddle the same as father used when I was a kid. I used it to sow seed mixture in the corners of the fields for the stewardship schemes. I keep it in the office on top of a cabinet where it won't get damaged or run over by a tractor.


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Father always had one for broadcasting grass seeds, but according to its instruction card pinned to it you can sow anything that will go through the aperture (that rules out potatoes). It also tells you how to calibrate and set the regulating lever.

If you have an Aero seed fiddle the chances are that the instructions are un readable or even worn away or just got torn off. However here is a copy of the exact instructions that should be followed


THE "AERO" BROARDCASTER AND SEED SOWER
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WORKING DIRECTIONS
Place the stick of bow in position, by putting it through the coiled spring immediately in rear of distributor bobbin; fix end on stick; give thong one turn round bobbin the pass it through hole in handle of bow and secure tightly.

To alter machine to sow different quantities per acre, loosen the winged nut on bottom of box, set lever to number required, then tighten winged nut.

Using instructions

No2 sows 6 pints of Clover Seed per statute acre and 16 feet at cast. Or 2 bushels of Rye Grass to a statute acre and 16 feet at cast.

No3 sows 3 gallons of Flax or Trefoil to a statute acre and 12 feet at a cast.

No4 sows peeks of flax to a statute acre at a cast.

No5 sows 1½ bushels of Wheat to a statute acre and 24 feet at a cast.

No6 sows 2 ½ bushels Oats to a statute acre and 16 feet at a cast.

No7 sows 3 ½ bushels Oats to a statute acre and 16 feet at a cast.
Or 3 bushels of Barley and 20 feet to a cast.


No8 sows 4 bushels Oats to a statute acre and 16 feet at a cast.

No9 sows 5 bushels Oats to a statute acre and 16 feet at a cast.

No10 sows 6 bushels Oats to a statute acre and 16 feet at a cast.

A shorter stick can be used for sowing headlands or narrow ridges

Keep your seed clean Keep your belt tight

Oil the journals and grease the stick well. Keep a regular and firm motion.

Never be entirely governed by the numbers as difference in the walk of the operator and the difference in quality of seed makes a gradual difference in the amount distributed therefore always measure in your hopper the amount of seed wanted of a cast or acre, and you will soon know how to set the machine to your walk, and never fail to get just the amount you want to the acre.

This machine will also sow fertilizer.

(If you want a new laminated card to pin back on your Aero Fiddle, I could post you one at cost, drop me an email.)


I like the bit where you can sow fertilizer with it, and as for broadcasting 5 bushels of oats to the acre, the bag on top of the machine must only hold about half of a bushel.

Father often liked to broadcast by hand, for this he had a kidney shaped deep pan that had two loops and a strap over his shoulder and a vertical peg type handle at the front.
It would hold about half hundred weight of grain seed in old money that's 56lbs, or 25Kilos

The strap that went over his shoulder onto the loops carrying it in front of him, this allowed him to use both hands swinging one hand then the other as a marching soldier, picking up seed at the front and slinging in a wide ark to distribute the seed with each stride.

Fine seed like kale, it was a finger and thumb job, and with grain, in wet patches where it was too wet to get with the drill, it was hand full's at a time job, but he liked the Fiddle for sowing grass and clover seed.


I Remember the Seed Fiddle.
This happened in spring 1944 when I was 6 years old

Father he sowed the grass seed, with a seed fiddle old,
The field across the road, through spring corn strolled,
He filled up his fiddle, with grass seed and clover.
Seed bag as this end marker, his blue jacket at other,

Four yards move the marker, at each end of the bout,
March strait like a soldier, strides even and stout,
He pushed and pulled the bow, with each stride he took,
For the seed must spread thinly, according to the book.

Working all through the morning, half the field is sown
He was heading for the sack, on which he could sit down,
As a little lad to see my dad, went across the field,
Picked up his jacket on the way, look at me I squealed.

On seeing what I'd done, he wasn't very pleased,
He lost his far end marker, and with grass fine seed,
There was no way of telling, where he'd sown up to,
At very early age I learned, what the markers do.

Owd Fred​



It is like the seed put in the soil - the more one sows, the greater the harvest.
Orison Swett Marden (1850-1924)
 

Owd Fred

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Location
Stafford
The cardboard instructions for it's use were still in tact on ours, but were in a very delicate shape forty years ago and I copied them out while you could still read them, and more recently also found the font that was used, from the remains and what's left of the original instructions, and that is what I have reproduced above.

I used it last when the Countryside Stewardship Schemes came out twelve years ago to sow a wild bird cover on an acre patch in the end of one of my fields against a wood, Good even strides is the key, don't start at a pace ya conna keep up.

Mine ,fathers fiddle he used from 1945
 

Roy_H

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About sowing oats by hand using a kidney shaped bucket , apparently oats needed sowing a bit more thickly than wheat or barley. According to my dad they used to say "To sow oats properly, get a lame man!"
 

Owd Fred

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Location
Stafford
About sowing oats by hand using a kidney shaped bucket , apparently oats needed sowing a bit more thickly than wheat or barley. According to my dad they used to say "To sow oats properly, get a lame man!"

The hopper/ bag on top of the seed fiddle would be about half a bushel and with oats having a very light bushel weight as compared to wheat the aperture would have to be wider open and you would have to fill up more often.
Yes he had a kidney shaped pan that would hold half a hundred weight, but fathers handicap was he had one and a half fingers missing on his right hand, so it was possible he would sowing lite on his right hand throw, if it were fertilizer on grass it would come up stripy.

The first bagged fertilizer that we had, had got to be sown immediately it was dropped off at the farm the sacks were hessian lined with tarred paper and soon went solid, then it wouldna goo through a plate and flicker fertilizer spreader, (horse drawn of course) always had to have hammer to break up even the small lumps in the drill/spreader
 
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SMID

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Sorn Ayrshire
The cardboard instructions for it's use were still in tact on ours, but were in a very delicate shape forty years ago and I copied them out while you could still read them, and more recently also found the font that was used, from the remains and what's left of the original instructions, and that is what I have reproduced above.

I used it last when the Countryside Stewardship Schemes came out twelve years ago to sow a wild bird cover on an acre patch in the end of one of my fields against a wood, Good even strides is the key, don't start at a pace ya conna keep up.

Mine ,fathers fiddle he used from 1945
Would your fiddle have DLK stenciled on the side? the same script as the aero broadcaster the reason for asking was they were made about a mile from here,
 

7610 super q

Never Forgotten
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Still got dads here. Never used it myself.......although "negotiations" with the Vicon every year make it very tempting.:)

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Owd Fred

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Stafford
Would your fiddle have DLK stenciled on the side? the same script as the aero broadcaster the reason for asking was they were made about a mile from here,

Yes but mine had been used intensively over the years and stored safe but the de-core/paintwork is all but gone it is an Aero Broadcast seed sower it was on the instructions for use.
 

Owd Fred

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Location
Stafford
Still got dads here. Never used it myself.......although "negotiations" with the Vicon every year make it very tempting.:)

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By gad that's the smartest one I have seen in years, never had a lot of work be the look on it, the main thing is keep it dry out of the way of woodworm and mice, mice will make a nest of the bag.
Has it got its original instructions on the card on the back pannel
 
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7610 super q

Never Forgotten
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By gad that's the smartest one I have seen in years, never had a lot of work be the look of it, the main thing is keep it dry out of the way of woodworm and mice, mice will make a nest of the bag.
Has it got its original instructions on the card on the back pannel
I'm not sure....I'll have a look tomorrow. Not paid a lot of attention to it over the years to be honest.
 

SMID

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Mixed Farmer
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Sorn Ayrshire
Unfortunately somebody borrowed this one and used it for ferts , brought it back without cleaning it ,making a new spinner has always been on the to do list just not high enough it yet the reason for asking about the DLK was that was David Lauder KILMARNOCK the ironmonger who sold them
 

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Baker9

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N Ireland BT47
I have Dads, I had to get it done up a few years ago as it was had wood worm and I have used it a few times to sow Grass seed. It is a "perfect sower" made by a company in Comber Co Down.
I need a leather wang for it as the one I have is perished, any one know where I could get one?
 

chaffcutter

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S. Staffs
@Owd Fred - I could have written that about my old man exactly the same, he was very proud of winning broadcast sowing competitions as a JNFU member ( before YFC times I think?)
He always said the competitions were 'Hoeing, mowing and broadcast sowing ' all by hand of course !
 

Owd Fred

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Stafford
I have Dads, I had to get it done up a few years ago as it was had wood worm and I have used it a few times to sow Grass seed. It is a "perfect sower" made by a company in Comber Co Down.
I need a leather wang for it as the one I have is perished, any one know where I could get one?

I found a new round leather wang on the net but had to buy three times more than I needed, I cut and fitted it and not knowing what thickness I need I just guest, it turned out a bit too thick compared to the old one but it does the job. The old one no doubt would have stretched and worn thinner with all the years of work, but it fitted

I will try to find the excess round leather wang and post it to you if you are serious about it
 

Owd Fred

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Stafford
@Owd Fred - I could have written that about my old man exactly the same, he was very proud of winning broadcast sowing competitions as a JNFU member ( before YFC times I think?)
He always said the competitions were 'Hoeing, mowing and broadcast sowing ' all by hand of course !

It always makes me cringe when you see actors in films mowing a meadow with scythes, they make it look hard work, and swing the scythe high up to one side and swing it down to cut about two foot of grass in one swing

If its done right its an easy job, its the stamina to keep it up all day that's the hard bit, keep the heel down to the ground and take a four inch bight cleanly cut each swing, oh ar, and keep it sharp
 

Pennine Ploughing

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It always makes me cringe when you see actors in films mowing a meadow with scythes, they make it look hard work, and swing the scythe high up to one side and swing it down to cut about two foot of grass in one swing

If its done right its an easy job, its the stamina to keep it up all day that's the hard bit, keep the heel down to the ground and take a four inch bight cleanly cut each swing, oh ar, and keep it sharp
years ago there was a man that used to travel from farm to farm cutting hay with a scythe, there was a big field on the corner, was 21 acre, (at that time it was the biggest field for miles) he cut it himself in 7 days,
 

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