Daniel
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- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Genuine celebrity endorsement.
Februdairy
- Thread starter Cows 'n grass
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- East Sussex
I’m not going to like that on a public forum but I’ve now got to wipe the kitchen table off and go make another cup tea because of you!
AGN76
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- Location
- north Wales
Nice one Tom Youngs. 
DocPhil001
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- Holsworthy, Devon
talking to a vegan is about as productive as trying to reason with a toddler.
Especially when it' time 4 bed
William Mellor
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- Peak District
holstein654
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Hats off to everybody posting pictures and providing answer to sensible questions. The concern I have is we are giving oxygen to some horrendous people to peddle absolute nonsense.
I fully respect people’s right to choose what to eat but engaging with aggressive vegans isn’t going to change anything, they have a very misinformed viewpoint that’s not going to change but we are spreading those views across a much bigger audience.
One argument I always put forward is that the soil is a living breathing thing needing feeding with organic matter if we stop all animal agriculture could the soil with fertiliser actually grow enough to feed a vegan utopia. The amount of arable land in the world that’s already desperately nutrient deficient. Anybody have any research data on this.
I fully respect people’s right to choose what to eat but engaging with aggressive vegans isn’t going to change anything, they have a very misinformed viewpoint that’s not going to change but we are spreading those views across a much bigger audience.
One argument I always put forward is that the soil is a living breathing thing needing feeding with organic matter if we stop all animal agriculture could the soil with fertiliser actually grow enough to feed a vegan utopia. The amount of arable land in the world that’s already desperately nutrient deficient. Anybody have any research data on this.
- Location
- Exeter, Devon
Might be worth pointing out that not only does British milk help to create wonderful wildlife habitat for all to enjoy and benefit from, but our milk didn't involve the destruction of any rainforests either.
AGN76
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- north Wales
I was reading some nut jobs tweets last night and unfortunately whilst the 1% of insular d**khead farmers that remain that are interested only in themselves and not the wider Interests of the industry then they are getting all the ammo they need
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Its amazing the reach one tweet i sent out at breakfast time yesterday has had! Some of the more established Twitter farmers must get a seriously high number of views, which also means the vegan propaganda must.
I don't really think we should of done this if I'm honest. Slot of twitter is about selling products and vegan posts are mainly people showing a lifestyle while trying to engage with people. To sell their crap!
A lot of the farmers on twitter a willy waving and if they looks at it from a urban persons prospective. It just doesn't sell. My gf is horrified that my management lists are numbers rather than cow names. I was only jotting down cow numbers for the vet to PD.
We've entered a mine field that we can't control or ain't savvy enough to g the message across we need. Where are the farmers unions, milk companies and more tech savvy people to engage in this. Because I looked at twitter the last few days. Been a blood bath really. With unaccountable facts flying from both sides.
We should promo f been wise enough over the last few months with metoo, students not wanting to look at art, engage in debate. The engagement wasn't going to go well.
A lot of the farmers on twitter a willy waving and if they looks at it from a urban persons prospective. It just doesn't sell. My gf is horrified that my management lists are numbers rather than cow names. I was only jotting down cow numbers for the vet to PD.
We've entered a mine field that we can't control or ain't savvy enough to g the message across we need. Where are the farmers unions, milk companies and more tech savvy people to engage in this. Because I looked at twitter the last few days. Been a blood bath really. With unaccountable facts flying from both sides.
We should promo f been wise enough over the last few months with metoo, students not wanting to look at art, engage in debate. The engagement wasn't going to go well.
Cows 'n grass
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- Location
- Modbury, South Devon
I'm not on Twitter and Facebook works slightly differently. The posts my wife and I do daily will only be seen by our combined 500 or so Facebook 'friends'. Many of these are people from school of uni who I've not seen for 10 or 15 years and the vast majority have nothing to do with farming. The posts can't be shared so can't be attacked by vegan militia.
These people are the middle ground who buy our produce but know very little are farming. They are the ones we need to educate to make sure they know the truth about farming and not the bollox spouted by vegans. Don't underestimate how little the general public know about farming and how they easily swayed they are by knobs like earthling ed.
SEVERNDALEfarm
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- Chepstow
Daniel
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- Location
- Mildenhall, Suffolk
Yes but if it was left as scrub land would it just remove 500 tons? The vegans aren't interested in seeing land farmed.
Headless chicken
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- Location
- West Wales
The response I’m getting on my Facebook has been absolutely phenomenal. It isn’t about changing militant vegans and if I’m honest it’s not about getting more people drinking milk it’s about people making informed choices based on facts and not lies
Shep
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- Location
- The Orchard County
Maybe, but you can't eat scrub. The point is it can produce food and remove carbon as well. As opposed to cultivated land.
When we have our own trying to undermime us what hope is there
Maybe, but you can't eat scrub. The point is it can produce food and remove carbon as well. As opposed to cultivated land.
When we have our own trying to undermime us what hope is there
Grass sequesters carbon faster when growing, grazing, crapping and trampling builds soil too, which means there is more 'sponge' to capture carbon, as soon as you plough or cultivate soil you start to burn Organic matter which means less sequestration. I would quite like to see a comparison of vegan and 'normal' diet and the carbon footprints.
I like to ponder the statement 'Organic Vegan' occasionally. Organic Agriculture relies on animals, so any crops grown organically relies on animal inputs in one way or another, unless you are really buggering the soil.
Friesianfan
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- Cornwall
Very impressed with your Facebook posts @Cows 'n grass
Mrs cows and grass is going to be pleased that Feb only has 28 days rather than 31. I wouldnt know how to fill the last 10 daysVery impressed with your Facebook posts @Cows 'n grass