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Green oak

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
I think the dry weather has made the crop look better. It was the wet and cold weather that done the damage. Merchants are always two months behind on pricing.
 
Because the merchants are trying to get locked in at the bottom of a rising market.

But are they? After all there is many components that make up the farmgate price:

Futures prices
UK Basis (price difference between futures and physical)
Forex

Just because a merchant rings doesn't mean they think the flat price will rise. They may actually be just covering a short in their physical book, or maybe they think the prices have hit some triggers for the farmer to sell, or maybe they think UK will appreciate vs. futures prices so they are selling the futures whilst they buy farm grain in the belief that the market is about to fall!!!

Also, I bet most merchants hedge the currency so they won't be exposed to swings in the GBP which can make or break the farmgate price!
 

Wheatonrotty

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
MK43
But are they? After all there is many components that make up the farmgate price:

Futures prices
UK Basis (price difference between futures and physical)
Forex

Just because a merchant rings doesn't mean they think the flat price will rise. They may actually be just covering a short in their physical book, or maybe they think the prices have hit some triggers for the farmer to sell, or maybe they think UK will appreciate vs. futures prices so they are selling the futures whilst they buy farm grain in the belief that the market is about to fall!!!

Also, I bet most merchants hedge the currency so they won't be exposed to swings in the GBP which can make or break the farmgate price!
Maybe just what it feels like, but rarely seems right when I've sold to frontier when they've called me.
 
Maybe just what it feels like, but rarely seems right when I've sold to frontier when they've called me.

I get what you mean, also part of human mentality. You will always remember the times you sold and the market went up more than when you didn't sell and it fell. The former required action and felt like a loss when in fact you simply booked a price with hopefully a profit.

Simple human emotion of FOMO = Fear of Missing Out
 

crazy_bull

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Huntingdon
I don't get it at the moment, plenty of folk really cross that they sold 5-10% of an average harvest at £140 and the market has gone up, they have 90% ish left to sell at more money.

Had the market dropped they would be in a worse position business wise.

I have spent most of this week explaining reasons why the market could continue to rise to clients, but their target prices have been reached and people are happy to lock tonnages in at better money than they achieved last few years.


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