Easy drill
- Thread starter Banana Bar
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SilliamWhale
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Are you serious?
The Avatar is a step in the right direction for a no till drill but the Pronto is a triple disc with not really much downpressure. It may be fine in cultivated soils but in DD it will always be compromised. Think about what needs to replaced too - sets of wavy discs, sets of seed coulters too.
Pronto NT is a no till drill designed to work primarily in no till situations hence the name NT. the one your thinking of the DC is the disc cultivator. We have run an NT alongside an avatar and it is hard to see the difference in a grass ley.
https://www.horsch.com/en/products/seeding-technology/disc-seed-drills/pronto-nt/
https://www.horsch.com/en/products/seeding-technology/disc-seed-drills/pronto-nt/
SilliamWhale
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Its a triple disc. They can perform ok but have a few features that are wanting.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I like the look of the NT but struggle to see how it can be anywhere near as good at penetration and covering as an Avatar. Have you sold any, be good to speak to anyone using one?
Have to say that the depth adjustment on the Avatar is the worst design I have seen since I started farming on any machine I've owned. Nuts and bolts are designed to hold things together not be used as a means of adjustment. I can see very few adjustments being made in the field leading to many compromises.
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- Location
- South West
Depth change on the sky is a fantastic design. Loosen off a big nut with the tool provided then pull it in or out in 10mm increments. Does 2 coulters at once and only takes a few seconds.
Yes there have been some pronto NTs sold. They get good penetration due to the wavy disc at the front and even in a tight grass ley there is no issue getting the seed placed at the correct depth.
With regard to the avatar, it has to be nut and bolt due to the patent on the adjustment system that is used by John Deere afaik.
Agree it isn’t the easiest to adjust but once you’ve done it a couple of times it becomes easier.
With regard to the avatar, it has to be nut and bolt due to the patent on the adjustment system that is used by John Deere afaik.
Agree it isn’t the easiest to adjust but once you’ve done it a couple of times it becomes easier.
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
12m Avatar with closer row spacing would be ordered tomorrow
- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
200mm maximum
Why 12m ?
I just can’t see the business case for 12m no till drill and the tractor size needed to pull it ........ not in the uk anyway, There are people doing 3-4K acres with a 4m
2x6m makes a lot more sense surely and be plenty of capacity for many, many thousands of acres ?
I just can’t see the business case for 12m no till drill and the tractor size needed to pull it ........ not in the uk anyway, There are people doing 3-4K acres with a 4m
2x6m makes a lot more sense surely and be plenty of capacity for many, many thousands of acres ?
- Location
- northampton
And quicker to move the neighbours have a 12m horsch drill they have to come though our fences to get to a block of ground takes over a hour to shift over the m1 bridge we share
- Location
- northampton
And don't even start on there 12m controlled traffic and 30ton chaser bin
you can pull a 12m avatar with a 724, it is 30k more than the 6m version in cost.
2x6m avatar/JD 750 180-200k + extra tractor. 12m avatar circa 120-130k one tractor...!
Why is a avatar so much easier to pull than a 750a ? Very similar designs
I would no way pull a 12 m 750a (if it existed) with a 724 / not even close
When was a 6m 750a 90-100k ?
Ours was 67k but I guess they will have gone up a bit in the past 4 years
That's what they are now. I've spoken to two people with 12m avatars who say they can get away with a 724 most of the time (remember it's 25cm rows so you may we'll be correct if it had the same spacing as a 750)
Wow ! That’s quite a price home for the 750a then !