Evicting a tenant.

ollandroverman · Jun 8, 2019

multi power said:
Admittedly it's a while since I visited Canada and seriously considered moving there to the appeal of cheap land and space, but building did appear expensive
So you can build a house there for £80k, no reason for it to be any more expensive here

glasshouse said:
I wasnt talking about volume housebuilding, i was talking about buying a farmhouse off the shelf out on the prairie

If you are buying off-the-shelf, it is by definition volume housebuilding

glasshouse · Jun 8, 2019

Doc said:
Having spent the last 30 months building two barn conversions in what were basically structurally sound buildings. I have learned that build costs from: planning, surveys, quantity surveyors, bank valuations and subsequent interest for finance, bat surveys, contamination surveys, architects, solicitors, building regs, builders and tradies, drainage and groundwork’s, compliant sewerage and waste, eco friendly heat generation, water treatment plants, electrical connection, epc requirements, telephone connection, General Electric’s and plumbing, landscaping and external development that it will cost you significantly more than £150k per residential development.
Throw in a builder whose written quote is a fiction and ultimately overspends by circa £90k without consultation, and where it costs more in legal fees than you stand to recoup by court challenge- even the legals say it’s not worth it, but again you spend further to work this out.
I doff my hat to those that ‘do’ property development for a living.
It’s been a nightmare for me.
You are in fantasy land if you think you can just plonk a prefab on a bit of ground and call it a residential dwelling in the UK.
It needs economies of scale to pencil to break even, never mind profit.

I can buy a 60ft by 23ft house for £75,000 delivered to site fully wired and in two halves ready to join together
No planning needed

glasshouse · Jun 8, 2019

ollandroverman said:
If you are buying off-the-shelf, it is by definition volume housebuilding

There isnt much volume housebuilding in rural sask

Lofty1984 · Jun 8, 2019

glasshouse said:
I can buy a 60ft by 23ft house for £75,000 delivered to site fully wired and in two halves ready to join together
No planning needed

Well f**king do it then and stop moaning about rent

ollandroverman · Jun 8, 2019

multi power said:
Admittedly it's a while since I visited Canada and seriously considered moving there to the appeal of cheap land and space, but building did appear expensive
So you can build a house there for £80k, no reason for it to be any more expensive here

Im not up on current Canada prices, but as stated in my early post, we have to build to different and more expensive standards

glasshouse · Jun 8, 2019

Doc said:
Having spent the last 30 months building two barn conversions in what were basically structurally sound buildings. I have learned that build costs from: planning, surveys, quantity surveyors, bank valuations and subsequent interest for finance, bat surveys, contamination surveys, architects, solicitors, building regs, builders and tradies, drainage and groundwork’s, compliant sewerage and waste, eco friendly heat generation, water treatment plants, electrical connection, epc requirements, telephone connection, General Electric’s and plumbing, landscaping and external development that it will cost you significantly more than £150k per residential development.
Throw in a builder whose written quote is a fiction and ultimately overspends by circa £90k without consultation, and where it costs more in legal fees than you stand to recoup by court challenge- even the legals say it’s not worth it, but again you spend further to work this out.
I doff my hat to those that ‘do’ property development for a living.
It’s been a nightmare for me.
You are in fantasy land if you think you can just plonk a prefab on a bit of ground and call it a residential dwelling in the UK.
It needs economies of scale to pencil to break even, never mind profit.

A good property recession would sort that lot out

ollandroverman · Jun 8, 2019

glasshouse said:
I can buy a 60ft by 23ft house for £75,000 delivered to site fully wired and in two halves ready to join together
No planning needed

You obviously aren't burdened by the requirements of planning policy like a lot of us then.
Also, I suppose what you are talking about could be called a house, but compaired to what the rest of us are talking about, it is really a short life disposable garden shed disguised as a house

Scholsey · Jun 8, 2019

glasshouse said:
I can buy a 60ft by 23ft house for £75,000 delivered to site fully wired and in two halves ready to join together
No planning needed

And where do you plan on putting said 60ft by 23ft house? your landlords lawn? A roundabout? Western Super Mare beach? I hear there is some cheap land available in Ukraine, not far from Kiev.

cows sh#t me to tears · Jun 8, 2019

Doc said:
Apologies for the thread drift @CornishTone. I hope you get it sorted. I’d probably listen to old Mac and Danllan and gloss over most of the rest.
peripaturient wives need looking after !!

Could always get her to sign up to this forum....shed have hung herself from the rafters by now.....

glasshouse · Jun 8, 2019

ollandroverman said:
You obviously aren't burdened by the requirements of planning policy like a lot of us then.
Also, I suppose what you are talking about could be called a house, but compaired to what the rest of us are talking about, it is really a short life disposable garden shed disguised as a house

Its classed as a mobile home, but doesnt look like one
But it will likely outlast the crap being built all over britain right now at the taxpayers expense

unlacedgecko · Jun 8, 2019

glasshouse said:
Have you never thought the opposite, ie if rents were lower and the " parasites" were treated better, they might reciprocate ?
If you treeat folk like shyte, they soon start to behave that way

Have you much experience with such people?

unlacedgecko · Jun 8, 2019

glasshouse said:
Its classed as a mobile home, but doesnt look like one
But it will likely outlast the crap being built all over britain right now at the taxpayers expense

I will agree with you there, most new build homes are absolute shite.

However, I’d struggle to get my wife to agree to live in a glorified garden shed.

Doc · Jun 8, 2019

@glasshouse if you think a glorified mobile home is what will solve the UK housing issues and is a realistic solution to what you have been alluding to on this thread, frankly you are deluded.

ollandroverman · Jun 8, 2019

glasshouse said:
Its classed as a mobile home, but doesnt look like one
But it will likely outlast the crap being built all over britain right now at the taxpayers expense

From a position of a little knowledge on the subject....I doubt it.
Housebuilding construction methods have indeed changed over the years...increased redundancy in structural strength. Absolutely massive Increases in insulation.
( sadly, this is partially to blame in many cases for reduced expenditure in other areas, hence a lower quality feel to many recently built houses)
And also, much to my sadness, due to a lack of quality time served trades men

Cowcorn · Jun 8, 2019

CornishTone said:
Cul-de-sac, semi detached in a small village.

Not a great start home tone , you have my sympathy.
A couple of guys i know had problems with tenants refusing to leave after tenancies expired, one collected about 20 live mice and released them in the kitchen that had the desired effect . The other engaged the services of a couple of brickies from Armagh who had a sideline in " putting people in the picture " . The were apparently very effective . The property was vacated undamaged the following day .

glasshouse · Jun 8, 2019

Doc said:
@glasshouse if you think a glorified mobile home is what will solve the UK housing issues and is a realistic solution to what you have been alluding to on this thread, frankly you are deluded.

Where did i say that?
Prefabs were usd in 1945 to last ten yrs , and many are still in use.
There is a development not far away using prefabricated panels , this is the way forward

cows sh#t me to tears · Jun 9, 2019

glasshouse said:
Its classed as a mobile home, but doesnt look like one
But it will likely outlast the crap being built all over britain right now at the taxpayers expense

Have lived in a 40 year old transportable for over 30 years now. I've survived.

bovrill · Jun 9, 2019

Our village hall is a Canadian designed pre-fab. It came here, second hand, in 1908, and is still going strong.
(Although I did notice that the clock on the front wasn't working when I went down to vote there the other day).

ollie989898 · Jun 9, 2019

If you dont care then 80K for a house is cheap living? Pay so much a month for it and simply torch when its end of life? Cheap living!

Kiwi Pete · Jun 9, 2019

cows sh#t me to tears said:
Could always get her to sign up to this forum....shed have hung herself from the rafters by now.....

@CornishTone just needs to tell her "leave means leave", pretty much guaranteed to work.

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