EU- Mercosur Trade Deal.

Campani · Sep 19, 2019

The potential Eu-Mercosur trade deal has been blocked by Austria. Largely due to concerns about products not being produced to environmental standards around agriculture. I think on the whole a good decision for agriculture in the EU. I personally want to produce products to a high environmental and welfare standard, but wouldn't be able to if undercut by other countries producing products to a lesser standard. My only hope is the UK government don't throw agriculture under the bus to get a post Brexit trade deal with the Mercosur.

7610 super q · Sep 19, 2019

Oh dear. Where to sell those BMW's now.......

spin cycle · Sep 19, 2019

good ....but the brussels mafia will get it thru eventually

ollie989898 · Sep 19, 2019

You do wonder what the point of the EU is. Tries to do a trade deal but is blocked from doing so by a single member. Its pointless.

som farmer · Sep 19, 2019

ollie989898 said:
You do wonder what the point of the EU is. Tries to do a trade deal but is blocked from doing so by a single member. Its pointless.

and loads of people want to remain in !!!!!!

Nithsdale · Sep 19, 2019

ollie989898 said:
You do wonder what the point of the EU is. Tries to do a trade deal but is blocked from doing so by a single member. Its pointless.

Because it has to have concent from all member nations...

But apparently that isn't democratic

le bon paysan · Sep 20, 2019

ollie989898 said:
You do wonder what the point of the EU is. Tries to do a trade deal but is blocked from doing so by a single member. Its pointless.

On the other hand, a single nation wants special treatment and all the other 27 say No and you say that's undemocratic!

Hindsight · Sep 20, 2019

ollie989898 said:
You do wonder what the point of the EU is. Tries to do a trade deal but is blocked from doing so by a single member. Its pointless.

And on here recall threads and posts concerned about the mercosaur deal. Maybe the Amazon being on fire has led to Austrian public opinion saying that beef and soya produced once rain forest is cleared is not sustainable. Maybe a few UK grass fed beef farmers might agree. Your comment seems to suggest trade at all cost. Funny old world following the thoughts of posters on TFF. Hey ho.

Werzle · Sep 20, 2019

Glad its been blocked but look at the money thats been wasted putting the deal together, its been years in the making only to come to nothing. EU is a money blowing organisation who say one thing but do another ie , you must cut emissions but we are going to source beef from countries burning rainforests in return for cars! you couldnt make it up

Nithsdale · Sep 20, 2019

Werzle said:
Glad its been blocked but look at the money thats been wasted putting the deal together, its been years in the making only to come to nothing. EU is a money blowing organisation who say one thing but do another ie , you must cut emissions but we are going to source beef from countries burning rainforests in return for cars! you couldnt make it up

And our own govt is any different?
Intact, is any govt any different?

Campani · Sep 20, 2019

Werzle said:
source beef from countries burning rainforests in return for cars! you couldn't make it up

This is the opposite of what they have done. The EU cancelled the deal because of concerns about environmental problems in the Mercosur region.

Jackov Altraids · Sep 20, 2019

le bon paysan said:
On the other hand, a single nation wants special treatment and all the other 27 say No and you say that's undemocratic!

This is the main quandary for Europeans. Should the EU be a slow moving behemoth requiring unanimous agreement or should it make quick simple majority decisions and force member nations to accept situations against it's will?

It has always been my belief that Europe would be stronger if member nations were left to make more decisions for themselves in the manner of the original EEC.

Poorbuthappy · Sep 20, 2019

Campani said:
This is the opposite of what they have done. The EU cancelled the deal because of concerns about environmental problems in the Mercosur region.

The "EU" wanted the deal, it's only Austria that blocked it seemingly. I think that's @Werzle 's point

Nithsdale · Sep 20, 2019

Poorbuthappy said:
The "EU" wanted the deal, it's only Austria that blocked it seemingly. I think that's @Werzle 's point

The EU is a group of nations. Austria is an equal partner in the EU like every other nation - their vote matters.

Henarar · Sep 20, 2019

ollie989898 said:
You do wonder what the point of the EU is. Tries to do a trade deal but is blocked from doing so by a single member. Its pointless.

Were they not changing to majority voting for some things in the future ?

milkloss · Sep 20, 2019

The EU top table wanted the deal, whether the European general population wanted the deal is another matter.

I suspect climate change was used as an excuse to kill it without losing face.

som farmer · Sep 20, 2019

once told, not to worry about the eu expanding - the more countries to join, the better, the sooner they will all fall out !

Muck Spreader · Sep 20, 2019

Nithsdale Farmer said:
The EU is a group of nations. Austria is an equal partner in the EU like every other nation - their vote matters.

As the UK has found out when it comes to Ireland. All the bluster from Priti Patel about starving the Irish into dropping the backstop looked ignorant at the time and very crass now.

ollie989898 · Sep 20, 2019

Hindsight said:
And on here recall threads and posts concerned about the mercosaur deal. Maybe the Amazon being on fire has led to Austrian public opinion saying that beef and soya produced once rain forest is cleared is not sustainable. Maybe a few UK grass fed beef farmers might agree. Your comment seems to suggest trade at all cost. Funny old world following the thoughts of posters on TFF. Hey ho.

Ah so its not sustainable to import beef grazed on the Cerrado but you can flog them emissions dodging Volkswagens?

You checked the carbon footprint of that beef against European stuff then?

primmiemoo · Sep 20, 2019

When the EEC set out 20 years ago to make the Deal it could not have predicted how rapidly the world's understanding of climate complexity would change, or how the political situation in the Mercosaur nations would revert to instability. I don't think the basis for that deal was especially wrong - but if it is now stopped - it's a relief that it won't go ahead in its present form.

VW et al are a different kettle of fish.

EU- Mercosur Trade Deal.

Member

Never Forgotten

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

0 %

Up to 25%

25-50%

50-75%

75-100%

100% I’ve had enough of farming!

Share this page