- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
Well look at the UK in whole, no nation is treated like an equal (as it's supposed to be)... it's England first and f**k the rest.
EU- Mercosur Trade Deal.
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Well look at the UK in whole, no nation is treated like an equal (as it's supposed to be)... it's England first and f**k the rest.
ollie989898
Member
Ah but its only 8 oz per person per year.
Protectionist bullcarp.
Protectionist bullcarp.
I wish. Welsh ,scots and irish always get special case help and england has to suck it up as not to annoy the neighbours. We english boys would get more help if we farmed a mountain or bog . Anywhere that cannot go without sub should be the first places to grow trees in the new save the climate era, why plant them on good ground and then pay hill farmers sub to struggle on with unprofitable farming imo
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- Dumfries & Galloway
Special case my arse. Westminster negotiated with the EU (because it's the member government) so that Scotland's subsidy was the lowest in Europe - below everyone else, even in the UK.
Yet you somehow think we have it better than you, you should do comedy!!
Sub, suckler premium and the extra boris just bunged you. How much more do you want, the shirts off our backs?.?
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
You should investigate things first, shouldn't you.
Suckler calf scheme comes from OUR basic subsidy - it's just broken down and paid differently by Holyrood. It is NOT extra money.
The money Boris is 'giving' us, was because the EU miscalculated our LFA, and we were underpaid. The EU sent that money to Westminster for it to be sent to Scotland. Tory ran Westminster distributed it between English and Welsh farmers and Scotland saw none of it.
Boris' generosity is actually repatriation of the money his party robbed us of in the first place.
But you just keep believing the bulls**t your posting
mark perego
Member
- Location
- in a river
You couldn’t make this up,beef farmers on here complaining that a member of the eu could block a deal that would really hurt eu beef farming. They’re so hell bent on getting brexit done. Anyway hold Bojo’s beer,he’ll probably throw us under the bus.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
I guess it must seem like the grass is always greener sometimes, but my Welsh land gets less sub than my neighbour’s English land on the other side of the hedge.
- Location
- Limousin
Some groups have to be sacrificed for the greater good. But no doubt BoJo's spin-man Cummings will sell some load of cobblers to UK farmers about all the fantastic opportunities awaiting UK farmers selling their world leading produce to the US, Oz, Brazil etc, who apparently, are just clamouring for it.
Unfortunately as "Public money for public good" already indicates, the reality looks like a steady decline into endless diversification projects, park keeping and part-time future for a great many farms. The question is, would remaining in the EU make any difference to this scenario?
- Location
- north Wales
Is that because of the 15% modulation we have in Wales? The highest in Europe!I guess it must seem like the grass is always greener sometimes, but my Welsh land gets less sub than my neighbour’s English land on the other side of the hedge.
mark perego
Member
- Location
- in a river
I believe so,strength in numbers and all that Plus the French won’t like to be thrown under that busSome groups have to be sacrificed for the greater good. But no doubt BoJo's spin-man Cummings will sell some load of cobblers to UK farmers about all the fantastic opportunities awaiting UK farmers selling their world leading produce to the US, Oz, Brazil etc, who apparently, are just clamouring for it.
Unfortunately as "Public money for public good" already indicates, the reality looks like a steady decline into endless diversification projects, park keeping and part-time future for a great many farms. The question is, would remaining in the EU make any difference to this scenario?
Scottish farmers get the highest sub per claimant in EU. It depends on how you look at it. Can we get back on topic now?
It maybe does now but you have had 10 years of historic payments when we were put on acreage, some farms around here (us included) saw our payments drop dramatically on the new acreage payment. Swings and roundaboutsI guess it must seem like the grass is always greener sometimes, but my Welsh land gets less sub than my neighbour’s English land on the other side of the hedge.
In other words, a shambles since at least the early 1990's. Still, hopefully if it's swings and roundabouts, I'll eventually get the same money as the Mafia got.
ollie989898
Member
Of course Scottish farmers get the highest subsidies on Earth....
Because they moan like fudge all the time. Only time bossfarmer isnt complaining is when he is counting his money.
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Not me, I was too late to that party and only got the value of whatever entitlements I purchased.
The total Welsh pot was no bigger then, it was just distributed badly. For every farmer getting a big historical payment on the back of what their father’s did, there was another getting next to nothing. The change away from historic payments just shared out the pot more equally.
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
yes i agree the welsh have had all sorts of grants over the years , we havnt , have the scots ?
- Location
- Dumfries & Galloway
.... This is laughable
1 ha in Scotland receives less sub than 1 ha of the same ground type in England. It's that simple.
It's an area based system so the size of holding has nothing to do with it.
You get headage payments .
- Location
- Montgomeryshire
Those grants have all come from the same total pot though, just distributed in a different way. The 15% modulated from the Welsh SFP has funded those grants and paid for all the advisers earning a living through Farming Connect.
Robbing Peter to pay Paul if you like.
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