The shame of the English

7610 super q · Oct 6, 2019

Getting back to the OP, I would have thought South Wales did very well out of selling coal / tin / steel. Welsh coal was exported round the globe.
Not sure how we'd get on being independent from England, since the EU have f**ked off the fishing and farming industries. What's left in rural areas ? Tourism, that's all. And where do 80% of tourists who visit Wales come from ?.......England. We've had our own Welsh assembly for nearly 20 years, and what a useless shower of f**king sh!te it is too.

ollie989898 · Oct 6, 2019

bovrill said:
Not actually from those arguing for Brexit though, is it?!
It's usually thrown around as an accusation by remainers to justify calling people racist/gammon/living in the past.

"But you referred to the war, that's racist"
"No I didn't"
"But you implied it"
"No I didn't"
"Well you were thinking it then"
""

How the fudge is referring to the war racist?

None of it ever happened- couldn't have done, they were the same as us, see? Even on the same side!

bovrill · Oct 6, 2019

ollie989898 said:
How the fudge is referring to the war racist?!

Everything's racist these days!!

le bon paysan · Oct 6, 2019

czechmate said:
And they’re to blame for loosing the USA...

Oh come on ! The UK lost it, the French sold it ( the Louisiana Purchase) for $15 million.

czechmate · Oct 6, 2019

le bon paysan said:
Oh come on ! The UK lost it, the French sold it ( the Louisiana Purchase) for $15 million.

Blame the French anyway

Lowland1 · Oct 6, 2019

le bon paysan said:
Oh come on ! The UK lost it, the French sold it ( the Louisiana Purchase) for $15 million.

The French supplied the Americans stabbed in the back we were. Did n't help that we had a German King. Surely it's obvious why we need to leave Europe

br jones · Oct 6, 2019

I blame the romans

czechmate · Oct 6, 2019

br jones said:
I blame the romans

Ah, you've suffered a fiat

rob1 · Oct 6, 2019

br jones said:
I blame the romans

Yes what did they ever do for us ?

rhifsaith · Oct 6, 2019

7610 super q said:
Getting back to the OP, I would have thought South Wales did very well out of selling coal / tin / steel. Welsh coal was exported round the globe.
Not sure how we'd get on being independent from England, since the EU have fudgeed off the fishing and farming industries. What's left in rural areas ? Tourism, that's all. And where do 80% of tourists who visit Wales come from ?.......England. We've had our own Welsh assembly for nearly 20 years, and what a useless shower of fudgeing sh!te it is too.

Why do you think becoming independent would stop english people coming here on holiday?
It’s about being able to make decisions on what’s best for Wales.eg the Swansea bay lagoon,wylfa newydd, The electrification of the railway line to Swansea,the m4 relif road.
All Blocked by Westminster
Cardiff airport is being held back as well as they don’t want it competing with Bristol airport

br jones · Oct 6, 2019

rhifsaith said:
Why do you think becoming independent would stop english people coming here on holiday?
It’s about being able to make decisions on what’s best for Wales.eg the Swansea bay lagoon,wylfa newydd, The electrification of the railway line to Swansea,the m4 relif road.
All Blocked by Westminster
Cardiff airport is being held back as well as they don’t want it competing with Bristol airport

Couple of things ,it was the welsh assembly that turned down swansea lagoon on cost,the relief road again mr mark drakesford ,leader of the welsh assembly said no to that ,cardiff airport like bristol is in a dreadful place ,no ivestment coming as air travel is decreasing from those areas.the railway line i dont know anout

rhifsaith · Oct 6, 2019

br jones said:
Couple of things ,it was the welsh assembly that turned down swansea lagoon on cost,the relief road again mr mark drakesford ,leader of the welsh assembly said no to that ,cardiff airport like bristol is in a dreadful place ,no ivestment coming as air travel is decreasing from those areas.the railway line i dont know anout

Greg Clark turned down Swansea lagoon,I believe he’s Westminster based,the m4 relif road was indeed pulled by Mark Drakeford due to cost as the uk government had stated it would be liable to a 20%tax pushing the cost up to a purported 2bn. I wish you could fly to more destinations from Cardiff. Great little airport

bovrill · Oct 6, 2019

rhifsaith said:
Why do you think becoming independent would stop english people coming here on holiday?

Because splitting from the EU means that UK subjects will no longer be able to travel into the rest of Europe.
Or so we're told! (We all know it's a load of rowlocks)

ollie989898 · Oct 6, 2019

bovrill said:
Because splitting from the EU means that UK subjects will no longer be able to travel into the rest of Europe.
Or so we're told! (We all know it's a load of rowlocks)

I'm sorry but some of us are a bit thick here, the statement you made above, I can't see any downsides as such? We can still get on a plane and go to say, Morocco or Tunisia on holiday or even splash some cash and fly to the USA or Canada instead?

stewart · Oct 6, 2019

br jones said:
I blame the romans

Yes, what have the Romans ever done for us.

PaulNix · Oct 6, 2019

rhifsaith said:
Why do you think becoming independent would stop english people coming here on holiday?

If you going through the pain of changing currency and a visa/customs check then unless it's for the rugby you may as well go somewhere with a reputation for better weather.

Agrivator · Oct 6, 2019

Why do English tourists visit Wales? Is it because they like the people or because of the scenery?

There must be a good reason if tourists are intent on visiting Wales and are willing to bi-pass Worcestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire and Shropshire.

stewart · Oct 6, 2019

PaulNix said:
If you going through the pain of changing currency and a visa/customs check then unless it's for the rugby you may as well go somewhere with a reputation for better weather.

Go to NZ, better weather and better rugby.

Lowland1 · Oct 7, 2019

Agrivator said:
Why do English tourists visit Wales? Is it because they like the people or because of the scenery?

There must be a good reason if tourists are intent on visiting Wales and are willing to bi-pass Worcestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire and Shropshire.

I had three years at university in Wales so I would say it's the scenery

arcobob · Oct 7, 2019

Lowland1 said:
I had three years at university in Wales so I would say it's the scenery

Aberystwyth was it?

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