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So explain why you wouldn’t use a safety harness if you were climbing that chimney, because that’s the legal test that needs to be satisfied.
Fred Dibnah laddering a chimney
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So explain why you wouldn’t use a safety harness if you were climbing that chimney, because that’s the legal test that needs to be satisfied.
spanners and hammers
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you would not need a harness as a harness is classed as a last resort ,, other methods would be used first ,, ie mast climbing hoist cherry picker etc
Climbing a 400 foot chimney has not arisen yet , when it does I'll contract it out .
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Absolutely, but if a ladder is deemed appropriate, then a safety harness would be a no brainer.
And yet in post 71 you were trying to be both smart and contrary and claimed that the correct thing was just to get on with it.
yep that and some ego stroking
Ah , but if the ladder went and you were attached , your both going .
Yes , Fred Dibnah felt he was qualified to make the correct assessment , so get on with it .
Have the HSE made the workplace safer ? I'd argue not as they have taken decision making away from the people that know better .
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If the ladder you’re standing on goes, it doesn’t matter if you’re attached or not.... If you lose a footing, or a hand grip, then a harness helps rather a lot.
And have HSE improved safety? - absolutely yes, and easily seen in the accident statistics. Sure, you’d argue not, but you are, I’m afraid, involved in one of a very small number of industries who doesn’t do HSE properly yet, and are also obviously not interested in learning either.
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It was a different time back then this thread has gone pointless now
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“Dangerous” is a meaningless word in safety terms, I’m afraid. From the first thirty seconds of the film, I’d say It’s hazardous, and has been engineered with unnecessary residual risk. It certainly couldn’t be CE marked in its current form and shouldn’t be sold or used professionally in this country.
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It was indeed - I’m just saddened that some still seem to be living in it, whilst also giving the appearance of being businessmen and possibly also employers.
Totally disagree , HSE have taken decision making away from the workforce , the minute you're not thinking is when trouble starts
Should the chap operating have worn gloves :?
Therefore you automatically suggest Fred was reckless
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Happy to have sensible discussion, but that isn’t.
startinghandle
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It was a different era back in the 70's
H and S was not heard of then. Fred had no safety equipment and I doubt the camera crew on top of the chimney did either
In 1980 I worked at firm making buildings and 2 gangs were going full time putting up the sheds safety issues was never mentioned
The firm had a crane which was an old electric board 4x4 Bedford with hiab which did not need safety test and the operator needed no training at all also the chain used for lifting had seen better days
But as we all know things have changed and if Fred Dibnah was doing his work today he would probably give up
H and S was not heard of then. Fred had no safety equipment and I doubt the camera crew on top of the chimney did either
In 1980 I worked at firm making buildings and 2 gangs were going full time putting up the sheds safety issues was never mentioned
The firm had a crane which was an old electric board 4x4 Bedford with hiab which did not need safety test and the operator needed no training at all also the chain used for lifting had seen better days
But as we all know things have changed and if Fred Dibnah was doing his work today he would probably give up
You mean agree with you .
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No, I don’t.
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Couldn’t be further from the truth if you’d read my previous posts
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