- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Very close to the bone, so this post could continue "you then say f**k this, sell your share and move away to a different country".
Family farms - how do you cope?
- Thread starter Bill the Bass
- Start date
Very close to the bone, so this post could continue "you then say f**k this, sell your share and move away to a different country".
- Location
- Ceredigion
Everything dad did was for his family . He wanted to build up a successful business to hand on to his children , mum just loved us to death and let him get on with it
It won't take me much to do just that to be honest !
Very close to the bone, so this post could continue "you then say fudge this, sell your share and move away to a different country".
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Where we had got to, and this was before “harvest” 2012 (as that did undermine my own thinking)...
I worked closely with our agronomist on a high input, high output arabe system and it was working well. However, my brother had become very negative (I don’t know why) and would say, why bother growing new crops, just harvest the volunteers next year; how is digging that ditch going to pay for itself and a comical one - I had the spreader, loader and urea down on a block of land but had left the calculations for the final doses in my truck in the yard, so I phoned my brother nd asked him to text the numbers and he replied “well what ever they are halve them and save some money”.
So, in this situation, when you both see things so differently, I don’t see how any amount of communication is going to accomplish anything-( I did try and explain the cost effectiveness of sprays, frets etc but he would just never have it)
Funnily though, the breakup was complete in my mind (just hadn’t actually happened) before “harvest” 2012. If I was still arable farming in Leicestershire, post 2012, I would struggle to get the confidence in the system we had back...
But that is now of no concern to me and I’ve moved to an area of low input low output
Bossfarmer
Member
- Location
- between Perth and Inverness
2012 was a bad year, why did you stop arable farming?Where we had got to, and this was before “harvest” 2012 (as that did undermine my own thinking)...
I worked closely with our agronomist on a high input, high output arabe system and it was working well. However, my brother had become very negative (I don’t know why) and would say, why bother growing new crops, just harvest the volunteers next year; how is digging that ditch going to pay for itself and a comical one - I had the spreader, loader and urea down on a block of land but had left the calculations for the final doses in my truck in the yard, so I phoned my brother nd asked him to text the numbers and he replied “well what ever they are halve them and save some money”.
So, in this situation, when you both see things so differently, I don’t see how any amount of communication is going to accomplish anything-( I did try and explain the cost effectiveness of sprays, frets etc but he would just never have it)
Funnily though, the breakup was complete in my mind (just hadn’t actually happened) before “harvest” 2012. If I was still arable farming in Leicestershire, post 2012, I would struggle to get the confidence in the system we had back...
But that is now of no concern to me and I’ve moved to an area of low input low output
- Location
- Cirencester
So very true and fear I am at that stage, am 49 and feel worn out, zero communication, constant criticism, left to get on with paying a mountain of debt off which I have nearly done. Plans that I would love to have implemented when younger are now financially feasible but the energy is'nt and the uncertainty of the whole situation saps one's drive.
Father has Alzheimers and dimentia and I am at the mercy of my delightful step mother, who in my time I have tolerated and been pleasant to but it is becoming very clear what the situation has now become, so no help there, she has here own workshy offspring to feather for.
Looking at moving away as cannot see any other way out of the current situation and unfortunately I believed all the BS when in fact I should have packed up and gone 25 yrs ago. No one to blame but myself.
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
I sold up my share and moved to France. Still arable farming on 25% of the ground here
But that is now of no concern to me and I’ve moved to an area of low input low output
Therefore your brother had vision .......
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Yes, I’ve smiled that to myself...
But - his “low input” idea was extreme, more like no input and take the sub
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
That could be my policy next year
Well, this autumn anything looks possible. I see, looking at market Harborough, another 1” for Thursday at the mo!
Never ends..
Nor here
glasshouse
Member
- Location
- lothians
I hope you have the deeds?
- Location
- Durham, UK
I was lucky that I was made partner in the business at 22 and my dad tried to push on but when I got to my mid 20s he got very negative about things and wouldn't discuss anything 're pushing the farm on.
In my early 30s , his mid 60s he was diagnosed with a form of Parkinson's that the doctors said would affect his mood (and had been doing so for years).
He got better and tried to help me push on. Sadly he got lung cancer and after a short illness died.
He set me up the best he could and it wasn't his fault but I found it incredibly frustrating when i diddnt know he had Parkinson's .
I'm 36 now and farming with my mother, it's not easy but we plod on I just wish he hadn't had to have that bloody illnesses
In my early 30s , his mid 60s he was diagnosed with a form of Parkinson's that the doctors said would affect his mood (and had been doing so for years).
He got better and tried to help me push on. Sadly he got lung cancer and after a short illness died.
He set me up the best he could and it wasn't his fault but I found it incredibly frustrating when i diddnt know he had Parkinson's .
I'm 36 now and farming with my mother, it's not easy but we plod on I just wish he hadn't had to have that bloody illnesses
- Location
- Ceredigion
EU farming at its best
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
Not every thread has to turn to f**king Brexit Derrick...
And, HERE, if I chose that option as the way it is organised this year we would loose over half our sub if we stopped “farming”
- Location
- East meath/dublin
Jesus ,not you too Mr Noo !!! I sincerely hope that after working your butt off to service the debt mountain that at least half the place is in your name with the other half to follow when your fathers day is over . The stepmother scenario does not look good and i think you need to get good advice on your rights . The last thing you should do is move away, after giving the best years off your life to the place . ITS YOURS you earned it and thats that . Chuck the old bat in the river if need be !!! Sorry didnt mean that , Good Luck.
My dad and uncle farmers in partnership, dad did all the milking and uncle was able to do his own thing! Uncle died 16 years ago, still not sorted out all the land that are jointly owned with his wife and children., but we have managed to sell a couple of building plots recently after 5 yrs of trying!
I’d never advice working with siblings/cousins!
I’d never advice working with siblings/cousins!
- Location
- Limousin/Charentes toad land
I'd have chucked my old man in the river , it was him or me .
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- agronomist finance pre-em urea
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