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Cowcorn · Nov 16, 2019

Brisel said:
Charming, as ever. And you still have the nerve to whinge about being called unpleasant names yet you post stuff like this and don’t like being told to go forth and multiply. Your assumptions about my personal circumstances are entirely fictional. I make the best of the cards I have been dealt and work to improve them. I’m not offended by you and have been called far worse by people far better than yourself.

Please come up with a better argument to solve a slurry problem and plan ahead in future.

No, No dont get sucked in Brisel the usual suspects have showed up to pluck the Brexit crow and with Slurry also been discussed its bound to hit the fan !!!
Anyway slurry is corrosive to the pureity of an Arable mans soul . The Duck is no slouch when it comes to debate and its usually game , set , and match . Just enjoy the banter .

Davy · Nov 16, 2019

This scenario was widespread in 2017 over here in NI. We all have the required storage being in a NVZ but it was so wet from July on, and no one was getting the silage off. We got a lump off the drier land in mid October, and ended up leaving the rest. We got a bit out with the umbilical but even our dry land was barely carrying. We had to spread 2 weeks before the open date again to keep the tanks below the slats and our w@nk3r neighbour touted to the EA. They came out, we showed the field spread, no run off etc and they were happy enough. There was a dispensation to spread if you could show you tried all other options. They did a full nitrates inspection a few months later though because of it. Chaps with sludgigators were in hot demand that year.

lazy farmer · Nov 16, 2019

7610 super q said:
I don't know why I keep replying to your trolling posts, but just to explain, UK Jay has the measure of Cowabunga. Whenever I post about losing my subsidy, or costs incurred to my business due to EU rules, he tells me it's my fault, or my bad management, or my bad farming, or my bad business acumen...... Now the boots on the other foot, and he don't like it. Anyone else, I'd have some sympathy with the current weather situation.

I’m not trolling you. I wouldn’t know how. As a Remainer. I just find it rather dull when every Thread seems to end up talking about Brexit.

Ukjay · Nov 16, 2019

Cowcorn said:
The Duck is no slouch when it comes to debate and its usually game , set , and match . Just enjoy the banter .

Good luck with that one - he cannot defend the indefensible after chastising so many others for shortcomings on forward vision ?

Ukjay · Nov 16, 2019

lazy farmer said:
I’m not trolling you. I wouldn’t know how. As a Remainer. I just find it rather dull when every Thread seems to end up talking about Brexit.

Stop perpetuating it then.

We're talking about someone's inability to have a robust contingency plan in place after telling everyone else they are incompetent, thick, unable to comprehend simple things etc ?

Derrick Hughes · Nov 16, 2019

Poultry farmers send their muck over 200 miles to Arable Farmers in uk as they dont have enough land . Why cant dairy farmers do same just put it through a separtor first

Brisel · Nov 16, 2019

Oscar said:
Local AD plant use those bags, they have 10 now on satellite farms. Not sure of size but each one would be 80ft long and 25 ft wide and when full are about 8 ft tall. Only problem is it only holds 2 days of production each so although a help ,not really going to make much difference. All their normal tanks and pits are full but they purchased some new ground this summer and dug a big 3 m deep hole which is about 1.5 acs in size. It will hold 900 tanker loads (18t) but they are already started filling it. Manager thinks it will be full by new year! Not sure what they do then?

Does that unit have solar, biomass and poultry too?

lazy farmer · Nov 16, 2019

Ukjay said:
Stop perpetuating it then.

We're talking about someone's inability to have a robust contingency plan in place after telling everyone else they are incompetent, thick, unable to comprehend simple things etc ?

Sorry I didn’t realise that post blamingEurope for low prices et cetera et cetera should be allowed to stand unchallenged. How depressing.

Smith31 · Nov 16, 2019

caveman said:
Maybe it'll rain every day until next April?

Yes it may, you are correct. However, this is a factor which is out of farmers and Europes control, pointless having a go at folk on here who provide simple information and make the forum more interesting.

Henarar · Nov 16, 2019

pappuller said:
A separator should reduce overall liquid by 20/30% depending on bedding material used, powder and sawdust products take more capacity up in a store than people think.

@pappuller is the liquid that comes out of a separator still classed as slurry or is it dirty water ?

Ukjay · Nov 16, 2019

lazy farmer said:
Sorry I didn’t realise that post blamingEurope for low prices et cetera et cetera should be allowed to stand unchallenged. How depressing.

Me thinks you may like the Brexit conversations more than you try to let on.

Cowabunga · Nov 16, 2019

caveman said:
Hmmmm.
As your such a know it all, I doubt this thread is about asking for advice.
It is nothing more than a "woe is me in this difficult situation due to my lack of forsight and forward planning" ,thread.
No doubt to be followed by the up coming, crowing thread on "how, for a few quid, I overcame the business busting situation I was in".
Quack quack quack.

Three of the lowest tenth percentile flocking together I see.

Again I demand you answer and quote to justify your claim. We all know you can't any more than your kin 7610superQ can when challenged. All mouth and no substance both.

Ukjay · Nov 16, 2019

Smith31 said:
Yes it may, you are correct. However, this is a factor which is out of farmers and Europes control, pointless having a go at folk on here who provide simple information and make the forum more interesting.

Like many posts on here - the actual point being made is being muted as it is obvious the one who started it failed to follow his own advice.

Shame that the base point which is the real root cause is being hidden by many a biased view to help save someone who takes pride in calling people idiots, stupid, unable to comprehend basics.

Maybe the learning lesson out of all this is to reap what one has sown too many times against others....

Cowcorn · Nov 16, 2019

Ukjay said:
Good luck with that one - he cannot defend the indefensible after chastising so many others for shortcomings on forward vision ?

The Duck doesnt mean to offend anyone and to be fair to him he is usually spot on with his facts and research. If he doesnt know the answer he will admit it . As regards contingency plans for slurry anyone with a herd of cows will tell you no plan will survive first contact with a WET WET back end and having double storage is not economically feasible . Its not lack of forward planning its just a once off event same as an arable farmer has normally one system for establishing his crops when a wet year comes along he can hardly have a spare set of different kit just in case can he ? The thread is hugely entertaining but lets not turn it into a DUCK shoot !!!

Derrick Hughes · Nov 16, 2019

Thats what you get when you cant except what was voted for . You make people angry and bitter
If you want to see real anger take a walk down Westminster and day of the week . My wife and doughter had tl drive through it today .
If the vote is overturned god help us
And lets get back to talking sh!t

Tarw Coch · Nov 16, 2019

Talk of digging lagoons , slurry bags or even a separator are all longer term solutions and do nothing to resolve the immediate problem.
Lagoons will need planning and EA approval, probably EA approval if not planning for a slurry bag and possibly planning for a separator, it all takes time without mentioning the expense for a problem which hasn’t manifested itself before, maybe won’t again and as the OP has pointed out, changes to legislation are rumoured to be on the horizon so now isn’t the time to spend relatively large sums of money on something which won’t be compatible with future legislation.

The immediate problem is what to do with slurry now without causing any pollution, that will depend a lot on weather going forwards and the type of land he has . He’s not in an NVZ so there’s no restrictions on when he can spread so as much as anything he needs to hope for some drying weather and it will then depend on the type of land he has.

Cowabunga · Nov 16, 2019

Forage Trader said:
Yes but looking at the financial pressure, dreadful late spring . Shortage of fodder . Then last years drought . I know one farm not far from you who spent 200 k on extra fodder last winter and many like him , this years gone pretty well , plenty of grass and fodder, but then have you ever seen cows come in so quick and early . I just hope its not like this in the spring , you can be sure your not the only one looking at a full slurry pit

Yes, I know. That's why I started the topic. There are plenty in a really bad position, far worse than mine, but we haven't heard from them at all, and no wonder with trolls like caveman and 7610superQ being what they think as being clever dicks.

Cowabunga · Nov 16, 2019

Ukjay said:
Stop perpetuating it then.

We're talking about someone's inability to have a robust contingency plan in place after telling everyone else they are incompetent, thick, unable to comprehend simple things etc ?

Put it in context. The context of this topic, and you're lumped in with them. I'm not surprised. You have a track record.

Cowabunga · Nov 16, 2019

Cowcorn said:
The Duck doesnt mean to offend anyone and to be fair to him he is usually spot on with his facts and research. If he doesnt know the answer he will admit it . As regards contingency plans for slurry anyone with a herd of cows will tell you no plan will survive first contact with a WET WET back end and having double storage is not economically feasible . Its not lack of forward planning its just a once off event same as an arable farmer has normally one system for establishing his crops when a wet year comes along he can hardly have a spare set of different kit just in case can he ? The thread is hugely entertaining but lets not turn it into a DUCK shoot !!!

Thank you yes, I am very aware that many, a high proportion of arable farmers have been unable to establish Winter crops as yet for exactly the same reasons.

7610 super q · Nov 16, 2019

Cowabunga said:
Three of the lowest tenth percentile flocking together I see. Again I demand you answer and quote to justify your claim. We all know you can't any more than your kin 7610superQ can when challenged. All mouth and no substance both.

Really. Well I can't be arsed to trawl though all your insults, not enough hours in the day, but just for starters, here's one of your posts that hint at my bad management, and another that implies my business is a " disaster ".

Independent Wales

You miss the point, which is that if it was up to Westminster it would not have been spent in Wales. They would have spent it on Crossrail or more vanity projects that grossly overspend, like HS2Would you build a Trump Type wall on the border

thefarmingforum.co.uk

Low mood in agriculture

Ahem !!! Are folks discussing woodworm behind my back ?:LOL:

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Interesting to see who " liked " those insults too.

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