HMRC Self Employed Grant Scheme

primmiemoo · May 18, 2020

Problem with this self-employed scheme is that my farming income has been lumped in all together with the amount I can claim for freelance work. To date, I don't know if my farm income for this year will be hugely affected by covid-19 - yet to sell any lambs, for one thing - but the scheme only runs to the end of this month. I know the freelance side won't resume before autumn at the earliest, so a decision is needed now.

Being furloughed by my part time employer is so much more straightforward, and will be automatically carried over until October if needed.

Still Farming · May 18, 2020

primmiemoo said:
Problem with this self-employed scheme is that my farming income has been lumped in all together with the amount I can claim for freelance work. To date, I don't know if my farm income for this year will be hugely affected by covid-19 - yet to sell any lambs, for one thing - but the scheme only runs to the end of this month. I know the freelance side won't resume before autumn at the earliest, so a decision is needed now.

Being furloughed by my part time employer is so much more straightforward, and will be automatically carried over until October if needed.

HMRC don't like "Hobby Farmers" on a good day so becareful?

primmiemoo · May 18, 2020

Still Farming said:
HMRC don't like "Hobby Farmers" on a good day so becareful?

Thanks, yes, I will.

My main income is from commercial farming, so any claim is with the secondary job in mind. If the Scheme is extended (Martin Lewis's website hints it's likely), then I'll have a better idea of the farm side of things, but at the moment, overheads for the secondary need attention (need that cashflow to sort them), so I'm going to have to show my workings on a piece of paper for an unseparated claim, then leave it at that (i.e., not put in any subsequent claims), and eke what's allocated to October.

Unless farm income goes phut! ...

JeepJeep · May 18, 2020

Self Employed... Can have 3 or 4 things on the go under one Umbrella of self emplyment. If one has been hit by Covid... claim simple. It'll be on the next years self assesment anyway.

Nearly · May 18, 2020

Still Farming said:
HMRC don't like "Hobby Farmers" on a good day so becareful?

I thought all (genuine) agriculture was classed as a business.
Some of the neighbours only declare a profit one year in five because they have to.
Or does losing money 4 years out of 5 make them proper farmers?

Mouser · May 18, 2020

Just in process of applying. Does anyone know if you can take less than the full amount offered? I'm only affected 4/5 days a month when wife has to 'teach' key workers children so dont need 80% of wages

Steevo · May 18, 2020

Mouser said:
Just in process of applying. Does anyone know if you can take less than the full amount offered? I'm only affected 4/5 days a month when wife has to 'teach' key workers children so dont need 80% of wages

Seems a logical question that! There doesn't seem to be a way....which suggests some will gain more and others will lose out by having less.

I'd like to think they'd balance it out later somehow but I expect the cost of checking and doing so would exceed that of the money paid out.

primmiemoo · May 18, 2020

Mouser said:
Just in process of applying. Does anyone know if you can take less than the full amount offered? I'm only affected 4/5 days a month when wife has to 'teach' key workers children so dont need 80% of wages

That's been my dilemma, too. I've made the claim, and saw on one page in the HMRC process that there there seems to be room to amend at a later date.

redsloe · May 18, 2020

Quick question, can you make multiple claims with one gateway id?
Obviously the business id and individual partners claiming.

Lincs Lass · May 18, 2020

redsloe said:
Quick question, can you make multiple claims with one gateway id?
Obviously the business id and individual partners claiming.

No ,each UTR has its own gateway number

JeepJeep · May 18, 2020

No the Gateways yours... linked to your UTR and Ni No...

Princess Pooper · May 18, 2020

redsloe said:
Quick question, can you make multiple claims with one gateway id?
Obviously the business id and individual partners claiming.

You need to get a GG for each partner and each claim separately.

The Agrarian · May 18, 2020

Mine is showing in my bank in tray for tomorrow.

ColinV6 · May 19, 2020

Mine arrived this morning. Transferred it right into the farm account. It won’t go a huge way but definately better than nothing. Dads is due in a couple of days.

redsloe · May 19, 2020

ColinV6 said:
Mine arrived this morning. Transferred it right into the farm account. It won’t go a huge way but definately better than nothing. Dads is due in a couple of days.

Did mine no problem.
Tried another partner's today with a new GG, their UTR and NI but same email address and it keeps going to my claim I made yesterday.
Doing something wrong?

The Agrarian · May 19, 2020

Yep, I had that once. Try on a different device, or clear cache.

Dave79 · May 19, 2020

When you’re inside they gateway (if you know what I mean) hit log out. Worked for me after that.

Lincs Lass · May 20, 2020

Mines just landed ,they said 6 days,came in 4

The Agrarian · May 28, 2020

Anyone still waiting?

JeepJeep · May 31, 2020

Incase anyones not aware.

Second Grant In August. But 70%

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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