ollie989898
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Masks have been worn in medical or surgical settings for years. It's hardly a huge encumbrance to have to wear one.
Has Spain got the 2nd wave ?
- Thread starter bobk
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Devils advocate: Unless a mass vaccine is here before the end of summer will it make any difference to the final death toll? I wonder if we are all better to go around licking door knobs and catch it while colds and flu at least are less prevelant. Wear masks etc now and catch it in the autumn plus flu?
yellow belly
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We individually have to do our own biosecurity 24/7
those that are complacent will catch it on the second wave
history teaches us that the second wave is worse than the initial outbreak but this usually assumes that people get complacent and stop distancing
Australia on second wave USA there although in most states they are on the first wave
some European countries on the way
world economic Armageddon is on the way untill there is mass vaccination
those that are complacent will catch it on the second wave
history teaches us that the second wave is worse than the initial outbreak but this usually assumes that people get complacent and stop distancing
Australia on second wave USA there although in most states they are on the first wave
some European countries on the way
world economic Armageddon is on the way untill there is mass vaccination
caveman
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- East Sussex.
This masking up in shops is just a tester of compliance before winter draws on, covid becomes rampant and masking up anywhere in public becomes compulsory.
Coronavirus: Spain drives fears of European 'second wave'
Its Catalonia region closes its nightlife as other nations eye increases in new infections warily.
www.bbc.co.uk
Chopsy Varmint
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By rights, colds and flu should be less prevalent this winter if masking, distancing and sanitising measures for cv19 work as they're all coronaviruses. Since the government is reported to planning on offering flu vaccines this year to far more people I can't decide if they have no faith their cv19 suppression strategies will work, or they're just being super cautious, or you're right and we need to get it over with now because nothing's going to stop a second wave.
caveman
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- Location
- East Sussex.
Weren't we lucky to have a much less than usual "flu strike" last year?
Maybe as there are probably vaccines for the expected flu strain to hit us this year, it is best to try to minimise that as far as possible?
Much on the lines of previous tactics to save overloading the NHS with covid-19 being the threat it is?.
Maybe as there are probably vaccines for the expected flu strain to hit us this year, it is best to try to minimise that as far as possible?
Much on the lines of previous tactics to save overloading the NHS with covid-19 being the threat it is?.
Sometimes I wonder how intelligent humans fail to see the obvious. Viruses have no brain and their survival strategy is not pre-planned but purely random. We are the ones with brains and we just have to understand how to use them. There is a high failure rate in this respect because we have an unbelievable superiority complex which leads us to behave like complete morons at times. Following a few simple precautions will improve our survival rate and in turn that of our economic well being. Ignore the obvious and there is trouble for all of us.
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- Limousin, France
UK government just imposed 14 day quarantine for anyone coming in or returning from Spain
Good .
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- Scottish Highlands
England only so far, but I would expect Scotland, Wales and NI to follow.
Scotland have followed , Nikky is better at twitter than the Welsh
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- Scottish Highlands
That was quick!
caveman
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- East Sussex.
Outbreaks apparently mostly in agricultural regions very rarely visited by tourists.
Guess it'll be coming here in truck loads with the produce and packaging then?
Guess it'll be coming here in truck loads with the produce and packaging then?
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- Northern Ireland
Slightly different. Surgeon is standing on top of a very vulnerable person with an open hole in their body. In that situation, it's also the much larger bacteria that they are worried about. Not really viruses.
That's true. And I do apply some simple precautions. I just don't think masks is one of the more effective ones.
@Exfarmer Are you trying to say that microscopic coronaviruses don't travel on aerosol? Of course they do. And aerosol doesn't land any time soon. You have to suck it away by force or through-draft. N95 masks may well reduce the intake of aerosol, but few people will be wearing those. So a much more consistent way is to stay out of the air space. If people go in without N95, it's going to spread, and that's the hard truth. I think face coverings are a strategy to give people confidence in themselves to go back out and use business and services again, for the economy's sake.
Fake news
Masks are not 100% effective any more than tin helmets were in WW2. We must take every reasonable precaution and that includes applying common sense.
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Yep. I popped into the Co op near Bourne and the cashier was without mask while the shoppers were. Presumed that is how it is!! Whole shenanagins is muddling to me. But there you go as I expect from Tories and Johnson.
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