My like comment was a mistype.My question what is your business model which is going to make you thrive in this new world, When the rest of us incompedent folk see different?
Another BBC article Biased against farming.
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By not demanding more of the same whilst simultaneously moaning about everything.
And for the record there’s loads of people around who I know will thrive, I’m just sick of reading these threads where people are juxtaposing themselves constantly. Forever complaining about the state of the industry and their business then instantly attacking and jumping on anyone who suggests anything even slightly off the current path.
Hilly
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Subsidy’s , they threaten to remove them then they give you more, I wouldn’t bank on it mind it will change one day everything dose , cockeyd world we live in, right carry on subsidy, shame when you see good farmers not getting much and other useless lazy bar stewards raking it in but hey ho that’s life row your own boat .
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The supply industry (and those who buy from us) must be making plans to ensure they don't lose out in the face of reducing subsidies.
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- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I agree, I think in areas where the soil is more fragile, like Australia and the USA, they are ahead of us here with changing how they look after their soil, but I am sure we will catch up, maybe in the future ploughing matches will seem like going to watch bear bating would seem to us now!
it shows the entitlement folk like Ollie have and they don't even know what they are getting, perhaps he thinks its magic
Not sure about this though ,if the land is cropped or stocked then the variable inputs and machines will still be there , the products will still be moved traded and processed maybe in a different way or by someone different though..
My personal experience is that the payments have destroyed more jobs and livelihoods by encouraging specialisation ,destroying the infrastructure , setting payments on land mean the alternative use or enterprise has match that income in the form of rent and create an atificial fixed cost base level to carry .
Better not to feed the bloated industry and still get the money
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That's what we should be doing
The ironic part is you moaning like a little kid and you don't even know what you get
Why has a payment that is de coupled from any production encouraged anything
Do my best, no entitlement here just like the gov giving me stuff just like Ollie only he don't realise it, if they stop then they stop thats life
Currently reading Steve groffs book, I love the positive and hungry attitude of these people. Worth a read. ‘The future proof farm’
Yes, you certainly do strike me as someone who gets wound up by this.....although I'm not sure why.
So, again Ollie, I'll ask what your stake in the game is?
for parity...
I run a large diverse business portfolio, primarily, but not wholly, based from an extensive tenanted hill farm.
I give gainful employment to a number of people - when in fact I could simply trouser the subs and slope off somewhere warmer.
Due to positions/offices held, and requests to help shape policy, I give the above some consideration - so I'm always grateful to engage in discussion...up to a point..
That’s exactly the attitude thats caused everyone other than the farmer/primary producer to make money out of the food supply chain from processor to chemical supplier to seed merchant.
maybe if we stopped using ‘it’s a way of Life’ as an excuse the industry might actually be in a better place.
Are you an NFU’er?
that depends what you think a better place is
and farmers running round giving all their payment money and a hell of a lot more to landlords in order to farm ever bigger acreages has helped has it ?
are you ?