- Location
- Co antrim
Good idea. Where u get the springs at?
MF weak drop arms
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Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
Now then. I mentioned in a post above somewhere that there was an alternative anchor point for the stabilisers that centred the raised links and which could cause damage if the stabilisers were tightened too much. It works by moving the pivot point of the stabilisers from the same plane as that of the lower link anchor pins, to an offset position. Open the picture above and note the higher up hole for the front of the stabiliser, which is the one I mean.
Anyone use this alternative pair of holes? Did anyone know what it was for? Don't be shy now, hands up if you knew and both hands up if you actually use it fairly regularly on a power harrow, drill or plough where is can be very useful indeed.
More importantly perhaps, has anyone cause any damage to the tractor by using these anchor holes and maladjusting the stabilisers to stop sway when the links are down, only to lift the links and bend something to buggery as a result?
- Location
- South wales
There’s an internal spring on new ones but it’s made of toffee
- Location
- South wales
I didn’t know that
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Great idea! I particularly like the chain retainer.
It actually makes for the best automatic stabiliser available. But as you explained it’s absolutely not fool proof and I gave up using those settings after dad accidentally destroyed a stabiliser, it’s very easily done.
- Location
- Ardrossan Ayrshire
The same idea as International had from the B250 through the worldwide series to the CX range. Its amazing how many people don't know about it..
They are for Ploughing or anything where you want the stabilizers tight when the linkage is up and lose when its down and I haven't used them as I hardly do any
The last lot which are the long ones on the 4355 came from kramp I think, dealer got them for me, the ones on the 3075 I had kicking about and the 6270 was so long ago I can't remember, think they come in all sorts of lengths and strengths
Done that on the first one so I hadn't welded anything in case it didn't work hence the rope on tuther end
Think there was on some of the 3000's but as you say lasted 5 minutes and didn't really work anyway
From memory as I don't have one any more but didn't the old MF's (500's and so on) with the heavy duty axle have two holes for the link arms where they go under the axle to do the same thing but the light duty axle didn't have this ?
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
They had two holes for the anchor point of the lower links. Basically the lugs were extended so that the links could be fitted to the lower holes for tractors like the 595 which had the larger diameter wheels, such as 16.9r38. They needed this for the links to run level in draft work so the links didn't slope down towards the back, preventing the maintenance of implement depth. This axle was fitted mostly to French built tractors which included some 590 and all 590 4wd models.
Centralising the links as they raised was standard on all models up to the 200 and 600 series I think. This was done using the internal check chains which tightened as the links were raised. They were attached on models other than the 595 to lugs on the PTO cover plate, using triangular plates with different length sides. This was so that they could be adjusted for cat1 or cat2 links. In what was then counted as being heavy work, the check chains stretched in work, which was unfortunate. The anchor lugs were not strong enough either, and could tear off. The 595 has a sort of staple affair anchoring the check chains to the drawbar frame, but again these were too weak and would bend and strip the attaching nut off from below the drawbar plate is a big [for the time] plough or disc was used on steep ground.
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I actually answered my own question remembering that the 4355 has the old HD axle and had a look
James
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- Location
- Comber, Down
Yep I knew that
Used to use it too but recent tractors don't have them. Worked a treat
Common problem that.. when you drop the arms with weight on and the pin under the lower link. We have done the same with the fastrac.
- Location
- The North
thats at york not sure if vt's (Its a 74)have the type of link connnector bit bbut this guy appears to have put different ones in, look like the type used on the top link that fits to tractor end.
these
Cowabunga
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- Location
- Ceredigion,Wales
That it a DynaVT with MF's standard linkage and a Dromone push back autohitch for trailers. The linkage parts are standard items made by CBM [they have the badge with two bars and three dots.
This tractor has the drop arm pins under the links, which is bad practice, and which bends the lift rods on some models is links are moved inappropriately. The standard external screw stabilisers seen on this tractor can be replaced by the Walterscheid automatic ones which lock sideways movement automatically if desired, which you often find on John Deere tractors.
The plastic end caps on the square profile lift rods for the auto hitch are missing on this tractor. It is important to keep dirt out of those tubes and plenty of oil inside, to lubricate the inner sliding part, otherwise bent autohitch lift rods will result. They do not like being dry either and will catch steel on steel and bend. Which reminds me to oil my rod as soon as possible.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Can you zoom out a bit to provide some context?
At first glance there has been some serious thrusting going on to cause a fracture like that. Not sure whether it is a front or rear link from that picture. Looks like the tractor has been turned with an equally large implement still soil engaging rather than with lifted links, forcing the link against the limiter plate seen, rather worn at bottom right, rather than properly adjusted external stabilisers which should stop sway before links engage with that plate, but context is all. The plate is there not as a stop for working linkage but to provide a stop for unattached links to prevent them slapping towards the centre and hitting the drawbar frame or autohitch lift rod. In work it should always be the external stabilisers that stop implement sway, not that free-link limiter near the tractor end of the link.
Unless there is some overwhelming other evidence otherwise, I would class that as driver abuse [improper use] rather than a substandard component.
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