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lazy farmer · Dec 1, 2020

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Currently doing the drying off trim. So far have lifted 170 sets of back feet. Very few issues. 5 with pre ulcer bruising from over growth. 4 with what might have become WL issues. No digi at all. So what foot bath regime can I get away with to maintain this situation? Currently formalin foot bath 3/4 times a week with a 4% solution.

TheRanger · Dec 1, 2020

lazy farmer said:
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Currently doing the drying off trim. So far have lifted 170 sets of back feet. Very few issues. 5 with pre ulcer bruising from over growth. 4 with what might have become WL issues. No digi at all. So what foot bath regime can I get away with to maintain this situation? Currently formalin foot bath 3/4 times a week with a 4% solution.

2.5% now being recommended as adequate by our vet, little difference seen between 2.5% and 5% in recent studies.

Personally I’d keep doing it 3 days per week, especially if you’ve got DD on farm.

Beef farmer · Dec 1, 2020

FDini said:
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lazy farmer said:
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Currently doing the drying off trim. So far have lifted 170 sets of back feet. Very few issues. 5 with pre ulcer bruising from over growth. 4 with what might have become WL issues. No digi at all. So what foot bath regime can I get away with to maintain this situation? Currently formalin foot bath 3/4 times a week with a 4% solution.

Id recommend 4% 3/4 x week. Don't let your foot off the gas.

Rossymons · Dec 1, 2020

lazy farmer said:
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Currently doing the drying off trim. So far have lifted 170 sets of back feet. Very few issues. 5 with pre ulcer bruising from over growth. 4 with what might have become WL issues. No digi at all. So what foot bath regime can I get away with to maintain this situation? Currently formalin foot bath 3/4 times a week with a 4% solution.

Carry on as you are. It ain't broke so it doesn't need fixing.

lazy farmer · Dec 1, 2020

Rossymons said:
Carry on as you are. It ain't broke so it doesn't need fixing.

Your probably right. But isn’t your answer also a bit like “I can’t reduce the magic potion I’m feeding/ teat spraying etc etc just in case.”

frederick · Dec 1, 2020

lazy farmer said:
Your probably right. But isn’t your answer also a bit like “I can’t reduce the magic potion I’m feeding/ teat spraying etc etc just in case.”

Your right. Reduce number of times a week. According to @Rossymons post we would still use blanket antibiotics in dry cow therapy.
Formalin isn't nice stuff and if we can reduce our usage we will hopefully have it longer.

Friesianfan · Dec 1, 2020

I never footbath. Never had digi

nonemouse · Dec 1, 2020

Friesianfan said:
I never footbath. Never had digi

Same here, but closed herd, don’t routine trim either, feet only get lifted if looks like being a problem, have done locomotion scoring with vet (started about 11 years since, and vet always comments fairly positively)

pappuller · Dec 1, 2020

lazy farmer said:
Your probably right. But isn’t your answer also a bit like “I can’t reduce the magic potion I’m feeding/ teat spraying etc etc just in case.”

Reduce down to either less days or reduced dilution and calculate if your roi is higher or lower that it is now.

jondear · Dec 1, 2020

Holsteinfriesian90 said:
Why on earth would you put that on tiktok?

I would be in a flat spin panic .If someone who worked for me did that his phone and him would end up In their too!

Milkcow365 · Dec 1, 2020

Can’t make them fendts fast enough

Dead Rabbits · Dec 1, 2020

Thomas-milmain said:
View attachment 924292Can’t make them fendts fast enough

Not reflecting in farm gate price predictions for us next year.

Ducati899 · Dec 1, 2020

Friesianfan said:
I never footbath. Never had digi

Impressive

I thought I was low at only once with formalin every fortnight during housed months and never whilst out grazing,no digi either

Rossymons · Dec 1, 2020

lazy farmer said:
Your probably right. But isn’t your answer also a bit like “I can’t reduce the magic potion I’m feeding/ teat spraying etc etc just in case.”

frederick said:
Your right. Reduce number of times a week. According to @Rossymons post we would still use blanket antibiotics in dry cow therapy.
Formalin isn't nice stuff and if we can reduce our usage we will hopefully have it longer.

Digi isn't nice stuff either. And an IBC of formalin will last a long time. In the scheme of things it doesnt cost a lot.

You're wanting to reduce your time at your quietest time of year. A time of year that the risk of DD is probably at its highest. Do you really want to risk foot health for the sake of a few mins or a couple quid?

Why not try at grazing when the risk is less anyway?

What do I know, I'm off to point at the moon for magic solutions.

Spudley · Dec 1, 2020

@Hill Dairy I think we saw your cows on Sunday, are you very near the coast and a very wide beach?

som farmer · Dec 1, 2020

Thomas-milmain said:
View attachment 924292Can’t make them fendts fast enough

auction up, again, some processors offering % fixed price, cows mental price, do you think it's indicating something ?
it would seem milk is under supplied, but also seems a lot of herds for sale, brexit round the corner, no knowing how that will affect trade, interesting times.

vantage · Dec 1, 2020

Spudley said:
@Hill Dairy I think we saw your cows on Sunday, are you very near the coast and a very wide beach?

The sea must have run inland that day to near the A40!

Spudley · Dec 1, 2020

I'm thinking of someone else obviously!!!

lazy farmer · Dec 1, 2020

Rossymons said:
Digi isn't nice stuff either. And an IBC of formalin will last a long time. In the scheme of things it doesnt cost a lot.

You're wanting to reduce your time at your quietest time of year. A time of year that the risk of DD is probably at its highest. Do you really want to risk foot health for the sake of a few mins or a couple quid?

Why not try at grazing when the risk is less anyway?

What do I know, I'm off to point at the moon for magic solutions.

It’s the other way round here. Since using envirobed we no longer get digi in the winter. We are much more likely to get it in September when the few remaining non concrete tracks begin to deteriorate.

lazy farmer · Dec 1, 2020

som farmer said:
auction up, again, some processors offering % fixed price, cows mental price, do you think it's indicating something ?
it would seem milk is under supplied, but also seems a lot of herds for sale, brexit round the corner, no knowing how that will affect trade, interesting times.

In calf heifers are cheap.

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