I take it those who want to see a "greener" agriculture will be making their tractors and machinery last 40 years ? Good, well done.
If the rates are viable, then they'll be willing to do it. We've not had any snow worth shifting off the roads in this neck of the woods since 1982. Back in those days I'd imagine you could push an abandoned car off the road. In these times of claim culture I think it best not to get involved in this type of work at all................
I suspect we would see far more 1,000 hp foragers up in the hills to cut their silage for the 300 sheep on the 5,000 acresthe rebate could be set to allow a livestock farmer an appropriate extra amount - a genuine user of red need be no worse off
its the sinple way to stop all the fraudulent and miss use we see
No from next year all plant must run on 100% white, only agriculture and rail will be allowed red.Seems to be lots of confusion here.
Red is for Agriculture and off road use. Farming will still use red. Construction plant used exclusively on site (or to travel between sites) will still use Red. I expect that the only change for Construction will be that road cleaners will use white.
Everyone else using Red because they are "off road" will continue to do so.
It's Customs & Excise that enforce the rules because it's a fuel duty offence to use Red on the Highway. They have no right (or desire) to check what you're using in your grain drier or beat up old pick up that you just use on the farm to do a bit of fencing or check the young stock.
PS When I worked for a Local Authority, we used Red in the tractors that travelled about the City to cut grass on sports pitches, trim roadside hedges etc. but I have seen reports of farmers being fined for using Red when topping the village football pitch.
No from next year all plant must run on 100% white, only agriculture and rail will be allowed red.
Which of course brings in the question of plant on the railways!
Then 4 partners will split their acres and get 4 allowances all acreage limits can be circumnavigated by 90 % of the large farmersLike it, Farm say 1 to 1000 ac 100% of claimable rebate, 1001 to 2000 ac 1/2 the claimable %, 2001 ac upwards no rebate, slow up one or two of these land grabbers.
Sounds worse than Farmers son turning up with 150hp tractor & getting the work for £20/hr doesn't it.Disagree charge plenty,
Presently quoting against another known quote, can’t get anywhere near, £15 k out,
Cannot see how they are doing the job for what they have quoted.
Its funny you mention the pickup on the red there clive i heard of a pub tale where a farmers son got found out & his Dad hit the roof of course.a farm could have a max rebate per ac / head of stock that could compare to other similar businesses
its all quite possible - but like VAT im sure you could try defraud it if that way inclined ……. personally I don’t fancy prison however
you could run your pickup on red today if you have no respect for the law so what’s the difference?
Rishi announced it in last years budget from April next year all construction loses the right to red diesel. They must have all red flushed through the system beforehand.
Only Agriculture and Rail will be allowed to continue using it.
It was probably one of those tax changes made in the book which accompanies the speech, so did not make headlines
I gave up leading silage apart from for a select few neighboursSounds worse than Farmers son turning up with 150hp tractor & getting the work for £20/hr doesn't it.
We all know your loosing money on paper but them have a go hero's know better.
when in real world it wants to be double that minimum.
Get a bigger combine if you can't cut your crop in 5 days and when its wet your all doing it wrongThe grain drying element is quite simple. Switch to kero. The price difference between red and zero is already in favour of kero, it's only the infrastructure on farms that keeps most using red for drying. Remove the lower duty level on gas oil and you will soon justify installing kerosene tanks for driers.
The break even point for drying between kerosene and gas oil is a 5% discount to make up for the lower calorific value of kero.
id rather leave all my gear parked up for some of the rates contractors doing things at.I gave up leading silage apart from for a select few neighbours
bouncing around flat out to be told your£35 a hour bill is expensive is just annoying
The sources may not be so easy?Plenty of building sites will still be runnin red. Will the dippers really want to tramp thru mud to go dip the machines
What I don’t understand is doing a job like that flat out for feck all but being steady away baling/ wrapping for 3x as muchid rather leave all my gear parked up for some of the rates contractors doing things at.