Construction industry losing red diesel

[le bon paysan]

In Germany it's a fixed rate per acre/ enterprise. The average cost per acre per enterprise of diesel use is apportioned as a rebate the same way as VAT is claimed.
Here we pay a fee per year to an organisation that collates all agricultural accounts, we get a discount on our accountants bill for being a member. Our accounts are used anonymously to get the average costs used by the Chambre de Agriculture.
If they Implement it here , it will be easy to work out the rebate and will be similar to Germany.
It'll come.

 

[farmerm]

So if you hire a digger out on multiple jobs like gardening and farming are you meant to drain the tank and swap fuels between jobs

A vehicle has to run red or run white, swapping fuels isn’t an option. In such cases it’s means either always run on white or have 2 diggers!!

 

[glasshouse]

It will just put up the cost of construction
Nuts

 

[Farma Parma]

In 2020 a team of crack ploughmen were sent to prison by a kangaroo court for a crime they did not commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the English countryside.
Today, still wanted by the government they survive as ploughmen of fortune. If you have a no till problem, and if you want to return to proper farming, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the A team..........

Thats Just Fab Thanks i think i nead to change my Sig to this

 

[Stewie]

Danger for them that way is how do they know you aren't slipping a bit in your truck every now and then?

They could cap the quantity based on crop/acreage. That is how it works here.

 

[Tubbylew]

It will just put up the cost of construction
Nuts

I do wonder how much it'll add to say a ton of ballast, those big wheeled loaders don't run on fresh air. In all fairness, unfortunatley, i'm sure its days are numbered in ag, they don't even need to give a rebate really, no one using a tractor now will stop using a tractor, I don't see many folk driving kit around for the sake of it as it is, some may not agree with different cultivation and pasture managment method etc, but folk, by and large are just doing the best they see fit for their bussinesses, people will just have to suck it up, it'd be nice to think prices would rise enough to compensate but that isn't a given by any means unfortunatley.

 

[JJT]

I hire a grain dryer. It is set up to use red. To sum up, using kero is not so simple.

Swapping to kero is just a matter of changing the nozzle and pressure.

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We didn't even have to do that when changed from red to kero. Had a heating engineer come out to set it up when we first changed it over but it just fired up and ran fine without changing anything. When we ran out of kero one time I put some red in to keep it going, kero delivery arrived the next day and just topped it back up no problems.

 

[Suffolksucklers]

They could cap the quantity based on crop/acreage. That is how it works here.

That's interesting. I just can't fathom how it would work here as there will be large livestock farmers using a lot of fuel on limited acres and then large arable farmers using very little in comparison. I think it would be like opening a can of worms

 

[glasshouse]

Ridiculous fuel taxes knackered farming twenty yrs ago

 

[Danllan]

Hedgecutting is an agricultural operation...

Go on, tell another...

 

[br jones]

I do wonder how much it'll add to say a ton of ballast, those big wheeled loaders don't run on fresh air. In all fairness, unfortunatley, i'm sure its days are numbered in ag, they don't even need to give a rebate really, no one using a tractor now will stop using a tractor, I don't see many folk driving kit around for the sake of it as it is, some may not agree with different cultivation and pasture managment method etc, but folk, by and large are just doing the best they see fit for their bussinesses, people will just have to suck it up, it'd be nice to think prices would rise enough to compensate but that isn't a given by any means unfortunatley.

if they never have to go on the highway they should still be able to use red ,its the tractors hauling spoil ,diggers etc are

 

[Farma Parma]

Ridiculous fuel taxes knackered farming twenty yrs ago

Puzzled how do you get to that now? iam well chuffed weve all in the farming game had rebated diesel for as long as i can remember

 

[Kevtherev]

Go on, tell another...

It is indeed an agricultural operation unless
Of course it’s hedges around factories or schools etc

 

[Forkdriver]

What about farming operations growing for AD?.

 

[Bongodog]

if they never have to go on the highway they should still be able to use red ,its the tractors hauling spoil ,diggers etc are

But they will have to switch to white, only ag, forestry and marine will still be entitled to red. The regs clearly say that.
No fuel supplier will contemplate delivering red to construction or quarry sites after March next year.

 

[Kevtherev]

Can’t see what’s so funny @Danllan
Lost me

 

[Kevtherev]

 

[Tubbylew]

if they never have to go on the highway they should still be able to use red ,its the tractors hauling spoil ,diggers etc are

Don't get me wrong i'm glad we've red atm, but there's plenty of petrol equipment that has full duty applied, that wouldn't see a road either.

 

[Farma Parma]

Don't get me wrong i'm glad we've red atm, but there's plenty of petrol equipment that has full duty applied, that wouldn't see a road either.

They have never quite mastered a Diesel Chainsaw have they such a shame... thankfully the petrol ones use nowt on the scale of things
Quad bikes do tho pleased ive never had one

 

[br jones]

can i just ask ,who is going to police this ?