- Location
- Lincolnshire
Yup. First pass will look a bit gash due to quantity of chopped straw. Second pass will tidy it up.
Be on the look out for weevils who have munched the legumes out of my ab15 for the third bloody time.
Establishing AB15 legume mix
- Thread starter dragonfly
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Yup. First pass will look a bit gash due to quantity of chopped straw. Second pass will tidy it up.
Be on the look out for weevils who have munched the legumes out of my ab15 for the third bloody time.
- Location
- Yorks
Remember you posting last year about weavils, so have been checking.
All OK at the moment, although clover leaves in our grass fields have got notches.
- Location
- Yorks
Pea and bean weevil mullering some of mine.
Worst damage of course is on the heavy land where emergence is slow, more time for them to munch the juicy cotyledons.
Bit of seed left over so will spin it on these patches before a rain. Question is when?
1. This Saturday, just before the rain on Sunday?
2. Early October, hoping P&B weevil activity will have slowed down by then?
Worst damage of course is on the heavy land where emergence is slow, more time for them to munch the juicy cotyledons.
Bit of seed left over so will spin it on these patches before a rain. Question is when?
1. This Saturday, just before the rain on Sunday?
2. Early October, hoping P&B weevil activity will have slowed down by then?
- Location
- Yorks
I noted someone had had a good stand from ocrober establishment.
But I think I'll spread this weekend. These legumes are REALLY SLOW growing...
To the extent that I've a really light field to put in next day or two, could blow through winter if little cover. I'm going to actively encourage the volunteer spring barley to help with ground cover.
- Location
- Derbyshire
Is it just lack of rain?Drilled 20th August, 4mm of rain on the 21st, nothing since.
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Patchy in places, at least something there.
Field drilled on the 17th August, looks like it will need re-drilling
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AB6 is looking more and more attractive!
Fat hen
Member
I drilled my 23ha in 2016 in October. Huge growth by June. Clover waist high. I know every yr is different but dont sweat it
Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
I'm having a major stress about this AB8 and lack of rain. We have seedbeds prepped as best we can (major headache given two massive rain events causing late harvest and RPA not telling us whether we had an agreement until June), but there's just no moisture there. Do I drill into slightly knobbly seedbeds with no moisture, or wait for rain?
I feel your pain... When will it rain?????
Trying to DD some Autumn sown Bumblebird mix in on some stubbles, but too damned hard to get the drill in the ground at present. PITA having to disc first, as it delays the job waiting for a stale seedbed again...
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Ab15, cross drilled straight into stubbles over the last couple of days. Rolled tight behind. No moisture but sure will be fine eventually.
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Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
What's it like in the combine wheelings / tramlines? With a Rapid? Tried ours straight in, but I wasn't confident in it because it didn't seem to be doing anything in the dips and wheelings.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Doing ok. Doesn't really seem like it's doing a lot due to all the chopped straw. But the seeds all covered. Won't kill it to be able to see a tramline or two.
We've some to put in after grass that's hard as iron. Right now the plan is patience but it may be a phone call to see if we can plant it in spring.
We've some to put in after grass that's hard as iron. Right now the plan is patience but it may be a phone call to see if we can plant it in spring.
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Hi, lets is know how you fare seeking a derogation from NE. Some of fields of AB15 I am involved in were sown befor weekend and more due Monday on 'clarty' clay that is totally dry but will be sticky as anything when rains. And then will be wanting to sow wheat that earns money rather than this stewardship sub job. Wonder how many wish they had never succumbed to the Stewardship bait with wheat at £175 for 22 harvest. I was sceptical. Hey ho.
Do the maths on second cereals and non osr break crops. AB15 looks far more attractive when compared to those on dirty land! An extra 1/2 t/acre first wheat yield boost after AB15 here and far lower black grass levels too.
- Location
- Lincolnshire
If you plant it and it doesn't grow, you'll only have to replant at the next opportunity.
Yes, it looks poor compared to a good wheat crop. But it looks good compared to the osr I'm about to rip up; looks good Vs new seed peas; etc.
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
You make an interesting point about resowing. I asked a ex FWAG adviser about not sowing AB15 (yes I know I should have asked NE technical staff). The reply was that the prescription says establish by mid September. If I sought a derogation to delay until next Spring the advice was NE would be able to and might ask to recover the payment made for the 2021 year as the prescription was not met. However, if the seed is sown and an invoice is on site and a record of cultivations held then even if fails to establish satisfactorily have met the prescription.
I note in this thread commendable attempts to establish a thick clover sward for the benefit of rotation etc. I equally interested in meeting the scheme rules?
So I shall be really interested in how you fare with seeking a derogation. I know Tesla I ought to ask myself. I might now but it seems to take an age to get a reply from NE.
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