livestock 1
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I think beef was 130ppk then dropped to 90 odd pence
So 16ppk feed 95ppk beef
Now 36ppk feed 240ppk beef
16 x 6 = 96
36 x 6 = 216
Still better now just though
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So 16ppk feed 95ppk beef
Now 36ppk feed 240ppk beef
16 x 6 = 96
36 x 6 = 216
Still better now just though
Mold clean and cows mental ! Drayton cows absolutely off the clock
- Location
- Shropshire
-30p
Where do you see dead weight level out at
- Location
- central scotland
Remember selling fat bullocks in the 80ppk region but buying stores at ......43ppk , £100 bought 250ish kg heifers at one sale , which went off grass the next summer at £1-£1.15 pk (450-500kg ) think red diesel was sub 10p though ps as a warning.....pretty sure that farms cows went away soon after that sale
livestock 1
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Well the feed at 36ppk I quoted is a bit steeper than I’m paying now but it’s where it will be soonRemember selling fat bullocks in the 80ppk region but buying stores at ......43ppk , £100 bought 250ish kg heifers at one sale , which went off grass the next summer at £1-£1.15 pk (450-500kg ) think red diesel was sub 10p though ps as a warning.....pretty sure that farms cows went away soon after that sale
When you reckon up red diesel was 10p so that’s gone up x 10 makes today’s farming not so easy plus everything else that’s gone up too
It's interesting if you scroll back to the start of this thread in early 2013, beef fat price was £3.70, and at the time it was a poor price, fast forward to now, and it's not that much more, and the costs have increased massively over 9 years! !
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
Hence why there’s now a shortage…
livestock 1
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Where was feed then roughly?
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
Barley was probably sub £100
livestock 1
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Yes I remember buying barley for well under £100 so that makes the beef conversion worse now by farBarley was probably sub £100
Northeastfarmer
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- Location
- Cleveland
Cheapest I remember buying barley was £60 ton…but I can’t remember what year that was now
livestock 1
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Yes we fed all the ewes on whole barley that year and hoggs I think it was before that not sure though
livestock 1
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Blew a few up too
mghley
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- Location
- Derbyshire
You seem to be a little confused.
The profitability or otherwise of my winter Hogg enterprise is based on the purchase price, the costs accrued to the point of sale and the ultimate sale price. On that basis I still maintain the sale prices to date less the associated costs has not been the disaster you make out.
Now the future is another thing and I to share your concerns about rising costs and therefore maintaining margins. I shall be making the case for prices having to rise and margins being maintained but I am not prepared to constantly criticise members selling their goods to best advantage and spread doom and gloom for the future.
Despite your assumptions I do not intend to be part of a race to the bottom !
livestock 1
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Just looked back to the beginning on here hoggs were making in the 90’s in 2013 some over £100 no wonder we are twisting now
- Location
- East Sussex
Having read @GUTH posts I am not sure whether to slash my wrists or just carry on regardless losing huge amounts of money because my costs have gone off the clock.
Luckily our costs are higher but output is even higher.
Yes fuel prices are some 50% up and in this area it is difficult to get fuel, otherwise most of our costs on a Dog & Stick system are similar to what they were the last couple of years.
Mush of the reason for this has been the weather!
We have had a very kind and easy winter (why the hoggets have got so heavy) the grass has never stopped growing so the stock are in wonderful condition. The small amount of feed we used was fixed last October and we have enough Cattle feed at the same price to see us through to the end of September.
We don't use much fertilizer so no issues there.
Because the weather for lambing has been so good the labour needs have been slashed so a significant saving (not that we could get any labour anyway!)
We would have had an exceptionally good lambing with very low losses of both lambs and ewes and at the same time high % born.
So supply and demand will mean there will be around 10% more lambs to sell, so probably have to sell a few more stores which will still be a similar price to what they were last year in July and August or even a little more. The high store lamb prices seen in October and November won't happen this time.
If I can sell 36kg lambs in July for over £100 I shall be very happy!! Sorry GUTH!
Luckily our costs are higher but output is even higher.
Yes fuel prices are some 50% up and in this area it is difficult to get fuel, otherwise most of our costs on a Dog & Stick system are similar to what they were the last couple of years.
Mush of the reason for this has been the weather!
We have had a very kind and easy winter (why the hoggets have got so heavy) the grass has never stopped growing so the stock are in wonderful condition. The small amount of feed we used was fixed last October and we have enough Cattle feed at the same price to see us through to the end of September.
We don't use much fertilizer so no issues there.
Because the weather for lambing has been so good the labour needs have been slashed so a significant saving (not that we could get any labour anyway!)
We would have had an exceptionally good lambing with very low losses of both lambs and ewes and at the same time high % born.
So supply and demand will mean there will be around 10% more lambs to sell, so probably have to sell a few more stores which will still be a similar price to what they were last year in July and August or even a little more. The high store lamb prices seen in October and November won't happen this time.
If I can sell 36kg lambs in July for over £100 I shall be very happy!! Sorry GUTH!
livestock 1
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I’ve sold a lot at £60 in the past one year I sheared what I had left and turned them away.
mghley
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- Location
- Derbyshire
I always seem to carry one or two wafes and strays through the summer and have a clear up in the autumn, even been known to carry an odd one through to following spring
