Whitewalker
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By the time a price has been debated, the guy will be past needing the tractor
Always help your neighbour out in an hour of need, you never know when the favour wants to be returned.don’t know yet - not done a bill yet, only did 1 day so far, maybe others if we are needed, i’m in no rush and will obviously speak to the neighbour about it before billing with knowledge of what others are charging ( hence why i started the thread / asked the question)
in reality i probably would not even bother to bill if it was just a one off day helping out. ……… ( that’s how you do clickbait btw )
I wouldn't personally risk damaging a £4k tyre or a £150k tractor on someone else's work for bare £100/day profit...Surely you know the costs of running the thing per hour, you know what the operator will want and throw in £8-10/hour profit or it's all a waste of time?
I wouldn't want to be too cheap lest the potato man make a habit of it. I'd sooner he paid my operator to drive his kit than involve my own metal.
bu99er that make's me feel old! can't belive it was 80's.
they can't add up' some are a bit daft. there's one round here with a digester tanker , on the mud flap it say's living the dreamClive £27an hour with 16 ton trailer plus fuel , ad plant rates ,
why how do the lads coming from ireland and cumbria souther scotland ,make it add up
I would say he shouldSurely he gets to decide his price?
Yes. @Clive is massively overcomplicating this.Always help your neighbour out in an hour of need, you never know when the favour wants to be returned.
they can't add up' some are a bit daft. there's one round here with a digester tanker , on the mud flap it say's living the dream
Because there costs are covered already on the grass silage. They never did any maize before and was parked up; kit all paid for. The only cost they ‘need’ to cover is labour and r&m, plant normally provides diesel.Clive £27an hour with 16 ton trailer plus fuel , ad plant rates ,
why how do the lads coming from ireland and cumbria souther scotland ,make it add up
so how much an hour do you want to do 12 hour night shiftBecause there costs are covered already on the grass silage. They never did any maize before and was parked up; kit all paid for. The only cost they ‘need’ to cover is labour and r&m, plant normally provides diesel.
If you can get and get a decent amount of acres that can be quite attractive for a contractor that would other wise be sat idle. Not massive margins but…
how am i over complicating it ?Yes. @Clive is massively overcomplicating this.
If it's a neighbour, and contracting isn't your business, just do it mates rates and he'll owe you one.
Or if you don't want to undercut others, just ask him what he's paying them and decide whether you want to do it for that, or not.
Ok, maybe I mean other people are over-complicating it.how am i over complicating it ?
question could not be simpler !
what are you paying or being paid ? ie what’s the going rate ?
I’m not a contractor with a 900hp forager sat idle and a fleet of trailers sat doing nothing now my grass is finished…so how much an hour do you want to do 12 hour night shift
ot rate or basic plus ot
talking about this yesterday
must be paying monkey nuts
ot by time ni and all other bits added up etc is £23 an hour
Which @Clive had already said, reality is if it’s just a day he won’t bother to invoice.Ok, maybe I mean other people are over-complicating it.
What I'm saying is, if it's a one-off for a neighbour, just fit in with him and bank the favour.
no just the man costs 23 for overtimeI’m not a contractor with a 900hp forager sat idle and a fleet of trailers sat doing nothing now my grass is finished…
£23/hr for a tractor and trailer is extremely low, yes. BUT the contractor doing the job has the kit brought and paid for on the work he had previously. It’s not a great Buisness model in the long term but in the short term it gives him some quick relatively easy cash.
For example 300 hours for one tractor/trailer @£23/hr is £6,900.
£23/he minus labour @ £12/13hr, let’s be fair they are only trailer drivers, leaves him a tenner per hour. Take out servicing at £1.50/hr leaves £8.50 per hour for repairs and profit. Not much, but realistically unless you have a blow out every week you’re going to just about be scraping a crust.
This is what's wrong with the contracting job, folk pricing everything at the equivalent of a trucks backload rate. Bonkers.I’m not a contractor with a 900hp forager sat idle and a fleet of trailers sat doing nothing now my grass is finished…
£23/hr for a tractor and trailer is extremely low, yes. BUT the contractor doing the job has the kit brought and paid for on the work he had previously. It’s not a great Buisness model in the long term but in the short term it gives him some quick relatively easy cash.
For example 300 hours for one tractor/trailer @£23/hr is £6,900.
£23/he minus labour @ £12/13hr, let’s be fair they are only trailer drivers, leaves him a tenner per hour. Take out servicing at £1.50/hr leaves £8.50 per hour for repairs and profit. Not much, but realistically unless you have a blow out every week you’re going to just about be scraping a crust.
Any jobs going? £23 overtime I’ll do it!no just the man costs 23 for overtime
they paying 27£ for 200 hp 50 k tractor and 16 ton trailer plant puts fuel in
WowI’m not a contractor with a 900hp forager sat idle and a fleet of trailers sat doing nothing now my grass is finished…
£23/hr for a tractor and trailer is extremely low, yes. BUT the contractor doing the job has the kit brought and paid for on the work he had previously. It’s not a great Buisness model in the long term but in the short term it gives him some quick relatively easy cash.
For example 300 hours for one tractor/trailer @£23/hr is £6,900.
£23/he minus labour @ £12/13hr, let’s be fair they are only trailer drivers, leaves him a tenner per hour. Take out servicing at £1.50/hr leaves £8.50 per hour for repairs and profit. Not much, but realistically unless you have a blow out every week you’re going to just about be scraping a crust.
I completely agree, it’s cut throat. I don’t agree with it at all but I’m not a contractor and quite happy to pay these low rates. I was just pointing out how the boys from Scotland/Ireland are coming over and helping out on these big maize jobs for very very cheap.This is what's wrong with the contracting job, folk pricing everything at the equivalent of a trucks backload rate. Bonkers.