should be coming over the bridge this week do you want some bringing be at cut up and packed
Land Owners - Deer Culling
- Thread starter bottletopbill
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Wilksy
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- Location
- East Riding
If it’s no trouble Will that would be great, thank you!
kfpben
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- Location
- Mid Hampshire
Was out following the hunt yesterday and must have seen 4 separate herds of fallow, each 25 head plus within a few miles.
They definitely need reducing in number. Apart from the grazing pressure they’re beginning to be a big issue running through electric fencing.
They definitely need reducing in number. Apart from the grazing pressure they’re beginning to be a big issue running through electric fencing.
bottletopbill
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- Location
- Kent/Surrey
Lots of decent shooters just waiting for a chance but need to get permission or a day out with some one as a mentor.
bottletopbill
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- Location
- Kent/Surrey
Hope they start to think like that in Kent and surrounding areas 
Swarfmonkey
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- Location
- Hampshire
There's a sizable herd of them hanging around between Hartley Wintney and Stratfield Saye, easily 60+ head. Always wondered if they were the descendants of escapees from the Iron Duke's old estate.
bottletopbill
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- Location
- Kent/Surrey
Wished i had a place to shoot any deer if only
Very active FB groups such as "Giving up the Game" where all manner of game, including venison is moved on at little or no cost.
Sadly legislation often rears its ugly head especially with "Trained Hunter" status (or not).
Personally it doesn`t concern me, after 30+ years in the meat trade you can soon spot any issues in a carcasse but there is a ream of paperwork if anyone is interested!
Sadly legislation often rears its ugly head especially with "Trained Hunter" status (or not).
Personally it doesn`t concern me, after 30+ years in the meat trade you can soon spot any issues in a carcasse but there is a ream of paperwork if anyone is interested!
- Location
- Berkshire
This is allegedly what happened here, the Ha-Ha around the Deer Park filled with drifting snow and they walked out the Park !!
- Location
- West coast of Scotland
It seems BASC haven't learned a thing from the Red Tractor debacle. I would have though that putting up barrier between producer and consumer was the exact opposite of what should happen.
Quality assurance scheme launched for wild venison
Applications opened this week for the British Quality Wild Venison (BQWV) standard, which aims to build resilience in the wild venison market.
basc.org.uk
Pieces_of_Eight
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I think it's a fine line between trying to promote wild venison to the public as being as safe to eat as any farmed meat, but without creating a mountain of paperwork for the people turning deer into food.
bottletopbill
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- Location
- Kent/Surrey
Completed my DSC1 and stalked with a mentor and completed my Humane dispatch course as well as lots of rabbit and fox shooting.
But now need a perm with some pest on the land to control .
But now need a perm with some pest on the land to control .
I have been deer stalking for many years and there is a lot of nonsense talked about regarding deer, often from deer stalkers themselves.
numbers are way too high currently and we do need a drastic reduction, clearly Covid did not help, but recreational stalking just isn’t doing what’s needed.
I look after a few places and have got them all in manageable numbers, now it’s a management job rather than a cull.
£50 for a roe at present is too much money, £30 of your lucky right now.
Venison prices from game dealers has plummeted, it does this every year.
So, in light of that I registered as a food business, and most of mine are either given away whole, sold just over cost butchered, or made into sausages and burgers.
I do also butcher the occasional deer for my landowners, however none are mad keen so it’s a couple a yr, would be more than happy to supply them more.
We need to get the public eating more of it, such a crying shame to see it wasted, but that does happen.
If anyone wishes to talk about an agreement for controlling deer, I’m all ears, and I like a fair deal to all parties so none of this pulling pants down, you scratch my back, I scratch yours, isn’t that how the best agreements have always worked ?
Regards
Rob
ps, if anyone is interested in trying venison, wants carcasses, fancies trying their hand at stalking but not confident to go it alone or doesn’t have the knowledge or kit, just message me, I’m am a 24/7 mad keen shooting man, with all the kit and dedication, in fact if you just want to talk stalking, I’m not in it for the money, it’s an outright passion for me
numbers are way too high currently and we do need a drastic reduction, clearly Covid did not help, but recreational stalking just isn’t doing what’s needed.
I look after a few places and have got them all in manageable numbers, now it’s a management job rather than a cull.
£50 for a roe at present is too much money, £30 of your lucky right now.
Venison prices from game dealers has plummeted, it does this every year.
So, in light of that I registered as a food business, and most of mine are either given away whole, sold just over cost butchered, or made into sausages and burgers.
I do also butcher the occasional deer for my landowners, however none are mad keen so it’s a couple a yr, would be more than happy to supply them more.
We need to get the public eating more of it, such a crying shame to see it wasted, but that does happen.
If anyone wishes to talk about an agreement for controlling deer, I’m all ears, and I like a fair deal to all parties so none of this pulling pants down, you scratch my back, I scratch yours, isn’t that how the best agreements have always worked ?
Regards
Rob
ps, if anyone is interested in trying venison, wants carcasses, fancies trying their hand at stalking but not confident to go it alone or doesn’t have the knowledge or kit, just message me, I’m am a 24/7 mad keen shooting man, with all the kit and dedication, in fact if you just want to talk stalking, I’m not in it for the money, it’s an outright passion for me
bottletopbill
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- Location
- Kent/Surrey
Free range Rob
What area are you in might help.
Those of us in the south east are crying out to shoot deer and learn hands on.
Completed DSC1 and done one stalk need to do some more stalks and learn to butcher and all the cuts.
AS now 66yrs old time is ticking
Bill
What area are you in might help.
Those of us in the south east are crying out to shoot deer and learn hands on.
Completed DSC1 and done one stalk need to do some more stalks and learn to butcher and all the cuts.
AS now 66yrs old time is ticking
Bill
Hi Bill.
I am in bedfordshire, but I travel the length and breadth of the country with regular trips to Scotland,
Sussex, Devon….
it took me a long time to build a good reputation and friends far and wide,
plenty of deer down in your neck of the woods, gaining trust from landowners is the biggest hurdle, and rightly so, having had some terrible people it pays to be wary who you are letting on your ground.
bottletopbill
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- Location
- Kent/Surrey
Fully agree with your comments but those that backstab ruin every ones trust.
Sorry but I was brought up my word is my bond and hope other's would do the same but I am 66yrs old.
Did get permission for deer in Kent got the land passed by police then the city owner gave it to his mates from the city.
Sorry but I was brought up my word is my bond and hope other's would do the same but I am 66yrs old.
Did get permission for deer in Kent got the land passed by police then the city owner gave it to his mates from the city.
There is a lot to giving permission, it’s your livelihood, your home, most likely been generations of your family involved, lots of expensive machinery and kit, to let someone walk around the place free reign is not easy, and more so when you don’t know that person.
Then you have stock, it’s your animals to also worry about.
It can be a clash of personalities or views.
Or the thought he will be down the pub telling all his mates about you and your farm.
Will they respect the land like you have cherished it, so many things to consider, and quite frankly it’s pretty low on the farming calendar when your constantly battling the weather, prices, red tape……..
The best recommendation is word of mouth, once a landowner knows you, trusts you and has seen you are doing a very good job, his opinion is often respected with the nieghbours, and that’s pretty much how every acre I shoot over has come about, go out my way to make sure they are completely happy with what I do, and how I do it.
been born into a farm workers family and following in the footsteps helped me along the way, but still it takes a lot of work and effort to get and keep permission to shoot.
Feel free to continue this via message if you prefer so as not to clog up this man’s thread
- Location
- south norfolk
I’ve got a couple who come here.one is an ex police inspector who I’m assuming knows the law and another chap who lived in France and done plenty of deer stalking there.i told them my rules and asked they txt me every time they come so I know they are about.also let them know I’ve no patience and if they take the pee it will all end.we all get on great and hopefully will continue.they are after red deer but they all seem to have gone elsewhere to rut before they return,so I’m told.they have shot 10 assorted roe,muntjac and Chinese water deer so far this year.
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Yes they do but it’s really an American disease, it’s called chronic wasting disease or CWD, not to be confused with the abbreviation for Chinese water deer also known as CWD.
I’m afraid those figures are a little out, not many roe will go 20kg on the hook, and £2:50 per kg is too too money, certainly right now where it’s hard to even give them away.He’ll likely just be charging you the going game dealer rate, which is £2.5 per kg. So a 20kg roe deer goes for £50. That’s not greed, simply the going price, if the weight / cost tallies up of course
exactly how it should be, build a reliable and trustworthy relationship that works for all parties
I’ve some places they insist on a text to know I’m around, and I’ve other places they don’t and happy for me to just turn up whenever (I always make a point my vehicle is in an obvious place if I don’t see them), whatever the rules, you either choose to abide by them or look elsewhere, really is that simple.
Reds are not rutting now, that would have finished, but they are very transient species and do cover the ground during rut season, so not unheard of they dissapear for a while before returning.
which part of the country are you in, the Chinese are spreading further each year, but to have Chinese and red on the same ground is unusual so guessing Norfolk direction.
I don’t know you or your ground, but 10 beasts a season is quite low so it must be reasonably well under control or they would be visiting more often.