Tractor replacement policy.

Foxcover · Aug 27, 2020

ARW said:
If they can’t reach 10,000 hours they aren’t worth buying

Exactly, friend has a 720 and was thinking of chopping it in but if it can’t do 10k hours without a major breakdown it isn’t worth the premium is it.
30 years ago 5000 hours was a lot for a tractor, they should be doing double that now without major problems otherwise wtf have manufacturers been doing with their time these last 30 years!

Sebastian77 · Aug 27, 2020

ollie989898 said:
So as a rough guess, expect to spend £20,000 on a tractor over 10,000 hours, which will include the maintenance/servicing and any repairs. Sounds reasonable. Tyres on top.

Has anyone managed to significantly come in below that figure and if so what make/model of tractor?

Crickey if that's new tractors running costs I'm bringing the fergie out of retirement!

On a serious note though, £20k on top of purchase price is reasonable? In what world haha.

If you bought a new car and had a 20k bill it would go down as worst car ever owned. Something doesn't add up

daveydiesel1 · Aug 27, 2020

Sebastian77 said:
Crickey if that's new tractors running costs I'm bringing the fergie out of retirement!

On a serious note though, £20k on top of purchase price is reasonable? In what world haha.

If you bought a new car and had a 20k bill it would go down as worst car ever owned. Something doesn't add up

I think its more like to take a tractor to 10000 hours will cost around 20000 pound in repairs over its life time. Not that buy 1 with them hours on it and spend 20k on it immediatly. Although wev a customer bought a t7210 i dont know what hours but was a fairly fresh tractor and in the last 18 months it has cost him alot of money at least 20k so ye can be unlucky

Fendt516profi · Aug 27, 2020

Sebastian77 said:
Crickey if that's new tractors running costs I'm bringing the fergie out of retirement!

On a serious note though, £20k on top of purchase price is reasonable? In what world haha.

If you bought a new car and had a 20k bill it would go down as worst car ever owned. Something doesn't add up

100k tractor 20k bill in 10years
10k cars is 2k bill in ten years I'd say that's a very good car

kill · Aug 27, 2020

daveydiesel1 said:
I think its more like to take a tractor to 10000 hours will cost around 20000 pound in repairs over its life time. Not that buy 1 with them hours on it and spend 20k on it immediatly. Although wev a customer bought a t7210 i dont know what hours but was a fairly fresh tractor and in the last 18 months it has cost him alot of money at least 20k so ye can be unlucky

20k repair in 10000 hours averaged would be ok’ish I guess if worked hard but 20k + in 18 months is a hard knock to take

ollie989898 · Aug 27, 2020

Sorry, Cowabunga was reckoning on 20K over the total of the 10,000 hours, for a high horsepower machine with a lot of toys. Not a 90hp yard queen with 3 gearsticks and a clutch pedal.

I don't know what a dealer service costs these days, by the time you have paid for those (essential if you intend to stay in warranty??) and then bought filters, oil and the like, you won't be far off £2/clock hour total once it hits 10,000 hours?

If people reckon they have done better over 10,000 hours then what machine was it and how much do you reckon it stood you in repairs?

melted welly · Aug 27, 2020

ollie989898 said:
So as a rough guess, expect to spend £20,000 on a tractor over 10,000 hours, which will include the maintenance/servicing and any repairs. Sounds reasonable. Tyres on top.

Has anyone managed to significantly come in below that figure and if so what make/model of tractor?

JD 7810. Brakes done twice, new cooling fan, alternator, some electrical niggles and an over revving incident. 2.5 sets of Tyres, went away with over 14,000hrs. Would’ve spent under £20k on repairs

NH TM 150. Couple of sets of brakes, obligatory nh leaky spools, viscous fan, front lift accumulator and 2 sets of synchros in the range command. Left with just over 10k.

Had several others that were real piles of shyte tho.

daveydiesel1 · Aug 27, 2020

Mf 4370 nearly 14k hours has had
1 hydralic pump
1 set of brakes
Either 3 or 4 clutches
1 shuttle syncro
1 4wd shaft
4 4wd shaft bearings
3 battery sets so 6 batteries
1 new gear stick
1 new pto seal
2 sets cab mounts
2 sets of ball joints
2 sets of trackrod ends
3 fuel lift pumps
1 alternator
5 fan belt sets
1 water pump
Bit of a list, doesnt include small things like light repairs etc etc but stil wouldnt add up to 1.50 an hour

Cowabunga · Aug 27, 2020

daveydiesel1 said:
Mf 4370 nearly 14k hours has had
1 hydralic pump
1 set of brakes
Either 3 or 4 clutches
1 shuttle syncro
1 4wd shaft
4 4wd shaft bearings
3 battery sets so 6 batteries
1 new gear stick
1 new pto seal
2 sets cab mounts
2 sets of ball joints
2 sets of trackrod ends
3 fuel lift pumps
1 alternator
5 fan belt sets
1 water pump
Bit of a list, doesnt include small things like light repairs etc etc but stil wouldnt add up to 1.50 an hour

A 24x24 power-shuttle would have got you nearer the mark. That is a very basic tractor not one as specified in the original question.

ARW · Aug 27, 2020

T7040
In the last 7000 hours it’s had
2x new rear tyres £1600
Damper plate £1500
Suspension accumulator £400
New led lights all way round £can’t remember
Few fab belts
18 sets of filters and oil changes
Front hub seals all round £400

it’s done 11000 hours so far

melted welly · Aug 27, 2020

ARW said:
T7040
In the last 7000 hours it’s had
2x new rear tyres £1600
Damper plate £1500
Suspension accumulator £400
New led lights all way round £can’t remember
Few fab belts
18 sets of filters and oil changes
Front hub seals all round £400

it’s done 11000 hours so far

Is that a classic spec?

ARW · Aug 27, 2020

melted welly said:
Is that a classic spec?

Could be
Power command
Electric spools
Climate control

you can buy it if you like!

daveydiesel1 · Aug 27, 2020

Cowabunga said:
A 24x24 power-shuttle would have got you nearer the mark. That is a very basic tractor not one as specified in the original question.

If driven correctly a powershuttle is ok. The 1s that giv big trouble is normally abused as in startin in to high a gear which would burn out a dry clutch aswel

melted welly · Aug 27, 2020

ARW said:
Could be
Power command
Electric spools
Climate control

you can buy it if you like!

Oh, no thanks, sounds a bit hitech. Already got a 7030 with manual everything, just turned 10,000hrs, been a good machine.

kill · Aug 27, 2020

daveydiesel1 said:
Mf 4370 nearly 14k hours has had
1 hydralic pump
1 set of brakes
Either 3 or 4 clutches
1 shuttle syncro
1 4wd shaft
4 4wd shaft bearings
3 battery sets so 6 batteries
1 new gear stick
1 new pto seal
2 sets cab mounts
2 sets of ball joints
2 sets of trackrod ends
3 fuel lift pumps
1 alternator
5 fan belt sets
1 water pump
Bit of a list, doesnt include small things like light repairs etc etc but stil wouldnt add up to 1.50 an hour

If you can work a spanner yourself then that would be seriously cheap running as it’s the dealers LABOUR that costs so much money.

Clive · Aug 27, 2020

MX7 said:
For those of you who buy new tractors ,do you replace them when they have done so many hours e,g 5000hrs or do you replace them after e.g 5 years irrespective of hours. Many thanks for any info

buy new, top spec, high residual value brands service religiously and maintain regardless of cost - plan on keeping 10 years /10k hrs

but reviewed at 5 yr / 5000hrs and if deal looks good we change early

is working out to be cheap tractor hours

daveydiesel1 · Aug 27, 2020

kill said:
If you can work a spanner yourself then that would be seriously cheap running.

Only job i wouldnt fancy tackling there is the shuttle syncro. Dont know if its hard to do or not but just paid dealer to do it

Fendtbro · Aug 27, 2020

Jesus, people are lucky on here.. We have ran Mf 399, two old fendts, Mb tracs and a load of diggers. they seem to cost £5 an Hour in parts plus labour, a lot of labour.. in fact it’s a never ending job keeping them all going. All The tractors have had major rebuilds costing a fortune in parts. Current mb gearbox rebuild is 8k in parts alone.

daveydiesel1 · Aug 28, 2020

Fendtbro said:
Jesus, people are lucky on here.. We have ran Mf 399, two old fendts, Mb tracs and a load of diggers. they seem to cost £5 an Hour in parts plus labour, a lot of labour.. in fact it’s a never ending job keeping them all going. All The tractors have had major rebuilds costing a fortune in parts. Current mb gearbox rebuild is 8k in parts alone.

Are u thrashing them?

Sebastian77 · Aug 28, 2020

ollie989898 said:
Sorry, Cowabunga was reckoning on 20K over the total of the 10,000 hours, for a high horsepower machine with a lot of toys. Not a 90hp yard queen with 3 gearsticks and a clutch pedal.

I don't know what a dealer service costs these days, by the time you have paid for those (essential if you intend to stay in warranty??) and then bought filters, oil and the like, you won't be far off £2/clock hour total once it hits 10,000 hours?

If people reckon they have done better over 10,000 hours then what machine was it and how much do you reckon it stood you in repairs?

We have a JD 6910 Power quad, bought with about 4k on clock, now 12k on clock and only ever had oil and filters done by ourselves. She is getting ready for some engine TLC though, old oil drip..

Wait I tell a lie, had to replace PTO switch in cab, cost like £70 which we thought was expensive

and there's probably a few fan belts and an alternator in there at some point but can't remember for sure.

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