Unaccountable organisations.....

Campbell · Nov 11, 2021

It often seems that it's only the self employed, sole trader types who are fully accountable for their actions. Mistakes and failures, in the public or private business sectors, are often just passed by and anyone actually found responsible, can usually sneek quietly away in full knowledge of little or no personal loss. One of the first concerns of corporate business employment is negotiating your exit payout and pension pot. How much sharper would government organisations be if there was some degree of personal accountability? Most I suppose are conditioned to close the door at 5 o'clock and go home and forget it till tomorrow, and they pay just keeps arriving in the bank....

warksfarmer · Nov 11, 2021

bobk said:
I'd agree , except supermarkets , they're business looking for the best return , sadly our leaders are giving them a leg up

They are running the Nfu.

bobk · Nov 11, 2021

warksfarmer said:
They are running the Nfu.

Quite possibly , doesn't take much for them to fall in line , Mineete Batters is out of her depth , by a considerable distance

warksfarmer · Nov 11, 2021

bobk said:
Quite possibly , doesn't take much for them to fall in line , Mineete Batters is out of her depth , by a considerable distance

She’s incompetent.

serf · Nov 11, 2021

thorpe said:
im suprised nobody has mentioned the bbc

We are that institutionalised with them from early age that's the trouble ......

warksfarmer · Nov 11, 2021

thorpe said:
im suprised nobody has mentioned the bbc and media in general, filling the public with lies and sh1t and our rep bodies sit back and say nothing, where are nfu rt ? they should be accountable!

Not sure why anybody is still paying the bbc license. I’ve not watched any of their biased crap for years and life is much happier! Everybody should stop watching and reading any news media because it’s all crap.

cows sh#t me to tears · Nov 11, 2021

Here, the Victorian premier brought in "workplace manslaughter rules" which can see ultimately the "boss" jailed. Seems it applies to everyone else bar himself.
Deaths th.g at were avoidable during the pandemic due to mismanagement by HIS government have seen no one jailed.....funny that.

tullah · Nov 11, 2021

Our fathers and grandfathers were members of the highly regarded Nfu and we naturally followed on in their footsteps proud to hold office too, despite knowing they are acting against your interests.
It's same as being a being a beet grower, you take a pride in your crop meeting between the rows before others and can't give it up no matter what the penalties and damage to the soil. But beet doesn't do what the Nfu is currently doing to you.

Flat 10 · Nov 11, 2021

National Trust…..
Did anyone get the sack for the bassenthwaite meadow debacle?

uztrac · Nov 11, 2021

Old Boar said:
The NHS - serious medical accident? Lift carpet, brush under.
Police - break code of ethics? No, thats OK. lessons will not be learned.
County Council - ignoring their own policies. No problem, no one to blame.
The Government - breaking the law. Yes, we know it is illegal, but so what?

The "safety net" has huge holes and only money or power makes the mesh slightly tighter.

Can I please add The Biased Broadcasting Corporation to your excellent list. Anti farming & generally leftie agenda.

melted welly · Nov 11, 2021

SEDEX.

Like Red Tractor, but “ethical” in their extortion of money and time.

steveR · Nov 11, 2021

neilo said:
HSE with their desktop designed policies, like stacking quadrant bales like bricks in a barn (eventually rescinded when they were repeatedly told how stupid they were), or making pensioners do UTV training because they might take the bins to the end of the drive in a Gator.

I am off to a ‘focus’ meeting later this afternoon, where we are going to be questioned about H & S on farms. I may be able to hold my tongue….. for about 5 minutes.

Be like the one I attended earlier in the week then....

Wait until you see some of the proposed offerings...

tullah · Nov 11, 2021

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Bruce Almighty · Nov 11, 2021

Steevo said:
So....we've had:

The Environment Agency and their 100ft drain issue
Red Tractor and their double standards of UK grain vs imported
Natural England and @ajcc
NFU and their denial of ownership of Red Tractor

These are just a few examples of bodies failing in their own remit but hypocritically holding others to account. Sadly this "do as I say, not as I do" attitude of is becoming more and more common in the world today.

I thought it made a bit of sense to bring them all together in a single thread so the pattern is clearly visible, rather than it just being a series of apparently unrelated issues.

Any other examples to add?

Nail right on head.
They pick on an individual doing their best, but if it's their fault they are faceless, the threatening letter never has an individual to reply to / argue with.

One of my neighbours is a horsey solicitor & I have always got on well with her ( & still do)
She now has a partner who is an ex chief inspector of schools under Brown and an absolute pansy, a right arrogant barsteward. The first time I met him I was hanging gates at neighbour's stables & he says "I'm not a practical person, it would take me 24 hours to just think about what you are doing"
We've had issues since then & I'm looking forward to telling him "no wonder the country is in a mess with pansies like you running it, no wonder most of the kids are f**king useless"
Mark my words, I will tell him when I get the opportunity.

Edit
What really pisses me off, the pansy is on a gold plated pension, moans about FYM smells but drives around in a 3 litre Merc

thorpe · Nov 11, 2021

Bruce Almighty said:
Nail right on head.
They pick on an individual doing their best, but if it's their fault they are faceless, the threatening letter never has an individual to reply to / argue with.

One of my neighbours is a horsey solicitor & I have always got on well with her ( & still do)
She now has a partner who is an ex chief inspector of schools under Brown and an absolute pansy, a right arrogant barsteward. The first time I met him I was hanging gates at neighbour's stables & he says "I'm not a practical person, it would take me 24 hours to just think about what you are doing"
We've had issues since then & I'm looking forward to telling him "no wonder the country is in a mess with pansies like you running it, no wonder most of the kids are f**king useless"
Mark my words, I will tell him when I get the opportunity.

for fecks sake dont call him a pansey , say it as it is call him a pratt!

Bruce Almighty · Nov 11, 2021

thorpe said:
for fecks sake dont call him a pansey , say it as it is call him a pratt!

I didn't write pansy or pansey
I wrote see you next Tuesday

neilo · Nov 11, 2021

steveR said:
Be like the one I attended earlier in the week then....

Wait until you see some of the proposed offerings...

Yes, my 5 minutes of holding my tongue was certainly tested.

It will be interesting to see what ads they choose to run with…

General consensus in the group was much the same tbh, so not just me. I don’t think the facilitator was particularly impressed with my viewpoint though.

steveR · Nov 11, 2021

neilo said:
Yes, my 5 minutes of holding my tongue was certainly tested. It will be interesting to see what ads they choose to run with…

General consensus in the group was much the same tbh, so not just me. I don’t think the facilitator was particularly impressed with my viewpoint though.

Hazel?

bluebell · Nov 12, 2021

disgraceful behavior by the police, in the historical sex allegations made about people such as edward heath, lord brammell, and others, on the say so of a fantisist? who was made to answer for that? all the distress and angress it caused, not alone the wasted amount of police time and resources? the very bitter pill we have to swallow is many of these incompetent civil servants either get early retirement on a very big fat gold plated pension? or as happened many times, get another big fat well payed job in an other local authority? disgraceful? Tony Blair in my view takes some beating for the top person, king of the cockups? not been made to answer for the UK going to war on the pretence that iraq had weapons of mass distruction? Oh so they hunted high and low when they got there for them ?

quattro · Nov 12, 2021

Water authorities pumpino sewerage into the sea

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100% I’ve had enough of farming!

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