- Location
- Darlington
Hope the pre Ems do enough to keep the battle at deadlock.
Use one or two of the above to control the non resistant plants. I like to think we aren't losing the battle but we're certainly not winning it either.
Wheat pre em
- Thread starter Mr Tree
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Use one or two of the above to control the non resistant plants. I like to think we aren't losing the battle but we're certainly not winning it either.
Do you stubble rake or light disc after harvest to get good chit then round up to get the resistant ryegrass to germinate ?
- Location
- S Yorkshire
Spring Barley
- Location
- Lincolnshire.
I think the maximum dose of ffct I sequenced is the best policy here. Cassandra (my agronomist£) is adding proclus this year. Personally I agree we are going to see much better conditions for residuals as there’s much more moisture about. I will probably start drilling in 10 days when a few more weeds have emerged. Oh yeah I have reduced the amount of non inversion tillage on Cassandra’s insistence, she’s also a fan of deep drilling! Bloody woman is costing me a fortune.
That at least allows you to take out those that germinate before spring drilling. Do you increase seed rates to help the crop compete? Does Axial work for you?
- Location
- S Yorkshire
Have given up with post em herbicide on ryegrass, we have found that ploughing and the following spring Barley do a reasonable job at reducing it. Seed rates maybe a little higher around 400 seeds/me. Going to try spring oats after spring Barley to give a break Into wheat.
How do Spring Oats cope with ryegrass? Not many herbicide options but reasonable competition I presume?
ollie989898
Member
In that situation it's a choice for avadex, surely?
- Location
- Darlington
We have tried, this year the rain has done the job for us. Getting a chit with ryegrass doesn't seem to be as effective as it is with black grass.
- Location
- S Yorkshire
If you have access to add plant could on worst black grass fields grow grass for a brake crop multiple cutting take the heads off?
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
- Location
- S Yorkshire
Could do but ab7 pays £584/ha on top of the crop income, whether the oats are a good crop or not.
If rain in last 10 days has promoted a BG chit, why would it not have been a chit of all the available BG seed in the ground? wheat seed would all chit at once, so why not BG seed? just wondering when the point of "its all chitted, quick spray it and drill it" is?
It's evolved not to. Germination of some seeds is inhibited by the germination of others.
wanton dwarf
Member
Broadway star is almost useless against our resistant ryegrass in this area, as is Atlantis and
Axial
In the same situation
We did 3x chit last year & apart from 1 field we did better - have some idea why that field was so bad & that also helped identify another issue
We don't have a solution to Spring Spray at all other than weep
wanton dwarf
Member
Are you thinking application in Autumn gives longer herbicide action or something else ?
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Avadex is the option for those who don't want to double stack the flufenacet. But I'll say now you will get better control from liberator followed by generic liberator, than liberator plus avadex.
The heavy rain of a week or so ago has really done the job for us. Now, with half a day field walking, we can decide what's a goer and what can go in with spring barley or even winter beans now, rather than in a month's time.
Dad on the other hand will start ploughing next week for barley to be drilled April 24. I will spend the next six months thinking about blackgrass. Who's the bigger fool? Direct drilled malting barley pooed on my winter wheat margins this year.
The heavy rain of a week or so ago has really done the job for us. Now, with half a day field walking, we can decide what's a goer and what can go in with spring barley or even winter beans now, rather than in a month's time.
Dad on the other hand will start ploughing next week for barley to be drilled April 24. I will spend the next six months thinking about blackgrass. Who's the bigger fool? Direct drilled malting barley pooed on my winter wheat margins this year.
- Location
- Haute Vienne, France
For those suggesting double applications of Flufenacet, all new formulations containing it as an ingredient here are banned on drained land because so much is turning up in watercourses. Only old products will be allowed until they come up for renewal and the new labels will probably say people with drains won't be allowed it any more. Metazachlore is going the same way.
It just may be that double applications of the same active is not such a good idea, before we even get on to the resistance implications.
It just may be that double applications of the same active is not such a good idea, before we even get on to the resistance implications.