GFC disgrace: Here's what NFU, AHDB and RT have signed us up for

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Agree. Arable farmers need a vibrant livestock sector.

This debacle by WWF, Tesco, AHDB, NFU, RT is a danger to our existence.

I've honestly spent this afternoon running numbers on 100% Sfi :(

This is the single biggest threat I have ever had to my farm business in 30yrs. I don't think many truly realise the implications of whats going on with this
 

AlfM

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Norfolk
I've honestly spent this afternoon running numbers on 100% Sfi :(

This is the single biggest threat I have ever had to my farm business in 30yrs. I don't think many truly realise the implications of whats going on with this
But surely the money pot isn’t big enough for 100% SFI for everyone and as soon as enough do it the rules will change or the payments will cease?
 

britishblue

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Scottish Borders
County NFU AGM tonight, to be attended by the high priestess I`m told
Told the movers & shakers that we are considering not renewing our membership because of the direction of red tractor & the NFU inability to stand up for farmers.the green module being the final straw.
Made the point, that I have said on here before, in 18 years of selling bottled milk, (about 1/2 million litres / year) not once has a customer asked about farm assurance / Red tractor. it`s irrelevant in the world outside of the cartel.
Also the rules for bottled milk, overseen by Env Health & Trading Standards have not changed in 20 years. Yet RT have to create new rules every year. Most totally meaningless.
Interesting to see if we get any feedback
You are only considering not renewing? Our renewal came in this week and no way in hell will we be renewing! Come on man,it's time to take a stand!
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
But surely the money pot isn’t big enough for 100% SFI for everyone and as soon as enough do it the rules will change or the payments will cease?
There’s always woodland for carbon credits or just sell up for pony pamperers. By the time AHDB NFU AIC DEFRA and RT have finished it will be an easy decision. Let them eat woodchip and see how many U.K. feed mills we need if the green dream teams wishes come true.
 

Grass And Grain

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Yorks
But surely the money pot isn’t big enough for 100% SFI for everyone and as soon as enough do it the rules will change or the payments will cease?
Well at least there'll be no grain for the livestock, so they'll have achieved their goals.

I went to a meeting earlier in the week by our local authority, about their Local Nature Recovery Strategy. Each authority in the country has to do one.

LA have been told target is 30% of land in nature schemes by 2030. Fits in nicely with the 20% reduction in livestock.

Meanwhile we'll import more from Brazil.
 

Humble Village Farmer

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Essex
County NFU AGM tonight, to be attended by the high priestess I`m told
Told the movers & shakers that we are considering not renewing our membership because of the direction of red tractor & the NFU inability to stand up for farmers.the green module being the final straw.
Made the point, that I have said on here before, in 18 years of selling bottled milk, (about 1/2 million litres / year) not once has a customer asked about farm assurance / Red tractor. it`s irrelevant in the world outside of the cartel.
Also the rules for bottled milk, overseen by Env Health & Trading Standards have not changed in 20 years. Yet RT have to create new rules every year. Most totally meaningless.
Interesting to see if we get any feedback
Please report back on here.

Would you feel like asking the president why she denies NFU are on the ownership board of Assured Food Standards?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
But surely the money pot isn’t big enough for 100% SFI for everyone and as soon as enough do it the rules will change or the payments will cease?

can only base decisions on todays reality can't we - right now the £'s is on offer and its a 3 year agreement

I'm not going to start predicting what will be the situation in 3 years time but nothing in SFI is permanent, if you mothball food production you can always un mothball ! 100% SFI still requires a drill / tractor and topper / some labour
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
County NFU AGM tonight, to be attended by the high priestess I`m told
Told the movers & shakers that we are considering not renewing our membership because of the direction of red tractor & the NFU inability to stand up for farmers.the green module being the final straw.
Made the point, that I have said on here before, in 18 years of selling bottled milk, (about 1/2 million litres / year) not once has a customer asked about farm assurance / Red tractor. it`s irrelevant in the world outside of the cartel.
Also the rules for bottled milk, overseen by Env Health & Trading Standards have not changed in 20 years. Yet RT have to create new rules every year. Most totally meaningless.
Interesting to see if we get any feedback

Take rotten tomatoes !
 

upnortheast

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Northumberland
Please report back on here.

Would you feel like asking the president why she denies NFU are on the ownership board of Assured Food Standards?
Not going, Learnt years ago sitting in NFU meetings was not the best use of my time.
Tonight Newcastle are on telly so an easy decision :D

My views will be raised ( Threat of loosing members appears to concentrates minds ) I`m assured & will report on feedback, if any
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
can only base decisions on todays reality can't we - right now the £'s is on offer and its a 3 year agreement

I'm not going to start predicting what will be the situation in 3 years time but nothing in SFI is permanent, if you mothball food production you can always un mothball ! 100% SFI still requires a drill / tractor and topper / some labour

Just make 100% sure you read the small print......and be prepared if they decide to unilaterally change their interpretation.

Worth being very aware that it could end up being a deal with the devil.

A contract with the government isn't worth anything because you cannot legally afford to challenge them when they have an unlimited budget for legal fees but an individual will not.
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Not going, Learnt years ago sitting in NFU meetings was not the best use of my time.
Tonight Newcastle are on telly so an easy decision :D

My views will be raised ( Threat of loosing members appears to concentrates minds ) I`m assured & will report on feedback, if any
Expect a Boiler plate letter from your Local branch and Renewals.

Possibly a call or email from the County Chair, if you are deemed important enough.
 
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