Can I shoot a dog that is killing chickens?

MRT

Member
Livestock Farmer
Personally I would improve the fencing before shooting a dog. Did it once in 1977 and it still haunts me to this day
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Location
Suffolk
A mains powered electric fence is a massive deterrent.
You can make your enclosure similar to that of a pheasant release pen with net dug or pegged down, a 450mm gap and two strands of electric fence wire.
Once the hard work has been done IMO it is then dog proof.
SS
 

Welderloon

Member
Trade
Hmm, chickens are livestock, the 'fox' would need to be in the henhouse/coop when dropped (preferably with feathers in the mouth) & the police informed immediately for it all to be watertight.
or
Allegedly fancy bred hunting type dogs are still being stolen to order all the time by unscrupulous gangs who target the countryside............just make sure the hole is deep & unseen
 

010101

Member
Arable Farmer
The lack of any effort to have a friendly neighbourhood is not one I would want to move to. The public read this forum, and then we ask for their help. Counterproductive pride.
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
OMG who would shoot a dog SUSPECTED in hens without absolute proof on trail cam video???
You couldn't even use the trail cam video to shoot the dog if the attack is already over. You have to catch them in the act and then you can use the dog to protect your livestock.
Prevention is better though. Shooting the dogs can lead to more problems if the owners are awkward you still have to live next to them. Last resort stuff really shooting them.
 

010101

Member
Arable Farmer
Pet murderers is bad PR. Which side do you think public opinion will be on?
Give yourself a reasonable defense. Try all other possible means of prevention.

Failing that, sometimes there are no good options.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Well, I was making the assumption, that any animal shot, was going to be in the chicken run at the time of shooting, or just vacating.

^this. I don’t suppose @Jerry was looking at walking into the pub with a shotgun to sort the issue.

Personally, I don’t think I’d hesitate if I found a big fox running amok in the chickens. I might have a think what I’d do about the evidence afterwards, but I’d consider myself quite within my rights to protect my livestock.
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
And have you ever tried catching one when you don't have a gun? Impossible it's horrible feeling so helpless running round after the damn dog not being able to do anything apart from chase it, shout and throw stones at it.
yes .

a few times.

we even had a case where a rogue dog was using the railway as a way of running up though and 'visiting' farms beside it , we followed it back once successfully and it ended up at a 'travellers camp' 2 miles down the line, and right next to it.

got other stories as well ended ok most of them. (thus far :cautious:)

worse and hardest to sort ime is when there are 2 dogs together 'on the job'
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
A mains powered electric fence is a massive deterrent.
You can make your enclosure similar to that of a pheasant release pen with net dug or pegged down, a 450mm gap and two strands of electric fence wire.
Once the hard work has been done IMO it is then dog proof.
SS
Agree. I have used 3-4 strands of steel for deterring dogs from sheep fields on advice from a TFFer

Your suggestion is a gold plated solution. Fence needs to be far enough away to stop dog from jumping over the electric and barrier fence. I now use Heras fencing and electric wire for fox proofing chook and pheasant pens.
 

hendrebc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Caught one mangling a sheep when I was trapping moles once and managed to corner it quite easily because it was fat and tired. It was a Staffordshire bull terrier type thing, big and mean looking. Didn't have a gun with me though. I walked towards it to catch it and take it to its owners who had left it in the garden and didn't know it escaped. It growled and went for me so I hit it with my spade (I took it with me expecting the barsteward thing to be nasty it had tried me before) it yelped and ran home straight into the house and the people wouldn't answer the door 🤬
It had another go at sheep after that but the owners got rid after it was out all the time. There's only so much you can do when neighbours don't look after their dogs properly.
 

ladycrofter

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Highland
Show camera footage to owner. Go to police. You admitted you have only seen prints you imagine to be those dogs. That is not proof. Your word is not proof. Your understandable anger and outrage are not proof.
Please be assured we have had sheep worrying and gruesome deaths, owners identified, dogs captured, police, and all that goes with it. You need to cool down and think a bit more rationally because the police certainly will the morning after.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Show camera footage to owner. Go to police. You admitted you have only seen prints you imagine to be those dogs. That is not proof. Your word is not proof. Your understandable anger and outrage are not proof.
Please be assured we have had sheep worrying and gruesome deaths, owners identified, dogs captured, police, and all that goes with it. You need to cool down and think a bit more rationally because the police certainly will the morning after.

@Jerry wasn’t suggesting going to shoot the dogs in the beer garden, just enquiring as to his rights regarding protecting his livestock.

Presumably he’d only be shooting them, if needs be, when/if he caught them in the act.
IF they have been in a killed, then rest assured they will be back. The owners have already shown they don’t care when told their dogs are wandering, so probably only one outcome will stop it, unfortunately.
 

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