Two knots or not two knots, that is the question?

Roy_H

Roy_H

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OK, something that's bugged me for years. Big square balers: Why do some manufacturers (e.g. Hesston, Krone) use a double tying system whereas some use just one knot per string like a little baler (e.g. Claas Quadrant ) What are the advantages in having two knots per twine?
 
KB6930

KB6930

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I asked this question recently and a man that runs a NH baler said you need 2 knots if you want high pressure bales .

And a claas salesman told me you need 1 as there's less waste and half the little ends left lying on the bale.
 
Speedstar

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Roy_H said:
OK, something that's bugged me for years. Big square balers: Why do some manufacturers (e.g. Hesston, Krone) use a double tying system whereas some use just one knot per string like a little baler (e.g. Claas Quadrant ) What are the advantages in having two knots per twine?
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Have ran both single and double knot balers and both do a good job
 
milkloss

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I was told the same as above. The double knot system reduces wear on the knotting mechanism as it doesn’t have to be held tight.
Double knots should both be on the top of the bale but in reality one knot always seems to slip round somehow.
 
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Will 1594 said:
The biggest moan with these big square balers is the inch bit of band they cut off and leave on bale , plastic pollution find the buggars everywhere
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Krone now have tailless knotters. Probably available on other makes?

Regards the original question, as above, pressure not held by knotter and able to stick more pressure into double knot baler, so I'm told.
 
bovrill

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bravheart said:
I was led to believe that they tied a second knot to let go of the string and save the pressure on the billhook:unsure:
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That, and the string doesn't have to slide round the bale as it grows. The two strings are being laid on the top and bottom of the bale separately so you can have more pressure.
The reason that one knot seems to slip around a bit is because everybody puts a bit too much tension on the bottom twine tensioner which causes the first knot to get dragged down the back of the bale a bit. The second knot it always where it should be,
 
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