Or like one locally here a couple of years ago did his business in the long heather and tried to burn the toilet paper he had used……set hundreds if not thousands of acres ablaze, some forestry too
even more stupid was he hung around to admit to it.
Muirburn scotland
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even more stupid was he hung around to admit to it.Grouse will be close to extinction in Scotland within 15 years & a large amount of upland birds ( their precious eagles included will decline) due to tick & competition for food if the heather is not managed & maintained correctly.
If you damage 1x part of a managed ecosystem it all usually unravels fairly quickly.
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If you damage 1x part of a managed ecosystem it all usually unravels fairly quickly.
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I guess we will have to see of there's any room for the estates to obtain licences to burn. But sounds like it's going to be heavily restricted. I can't find out when this comes in to force either
I'm sure you can lobby Alister Jack regarding the situation.
I've 4 Estates locally & their take on it all makes for a pretty grim future if this is set in stone
beltbreaker
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- Location
- Ross-shire
I have had a few exchanges with our local MP over the past few years. I have ponited out and he has brought up in Parliament the potential problems when muirburn reduces/stops and destocking progresses, the potential problems of wildfires. As ever "agriculture is a matter for the Scottish Parliament" was the reply.
The biggest recent fire in the UK was last year in Glen Affric started by a doctor who left a campfire smoldering. It burned for days and could be seen from space. Have a read of the article below it is scathing.
www.scottishgamekeepers.co.uk
I don't think it says that the keepers were the only people out at night as the fire brigade stop when the sun goes down until it comes up again. Also the the high heid yins get in the way of the local brigades who are used to dealing with such incidents..
Anyway, it's an ill wind and we are courting disaster on a grand scale.
On a lighter note one heavily stocked farm up the Glen commented to the local RSPB chap how the fire had only come within a foot of his fence as the sheep grazing had stopped it entering his farm.... It is not recorded what the RSPB chap said!
The biggest recent fire in the UK was last year in Glen Affric started by a doctor who left a campfire smoldering. It burned for days and could be seen from space. Have a read of the article below it is scathing.
Wildfire prevention plans should be mandatory, says SGA
Scottish Government can guard against the loss of tax payer money
I don't think it says that the keepers were the only people out at night as the fire brigade stop when the sun goes down until it comes up again. Also the the high heid yins get in the way of the local brigades who are used to dealing with such incidents..
Anyway, it's an ill wind and we are courting disaster on a grand scale.
On a lighter note one heavily stocked farm up the Glen commented to the local RSPB chap how the fire had only come within a foot of his fence as the sheep grazing had stopped it entering his farm.... It is not recorded what the RSPB chap said!
Dave6170
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- Watten, caithness
If you asked our Msp it would be westminsters fault 
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- Highland
They're essentially bankrupt so hopefully this election will be start of something for the better. They don't give a sh!t about the Highlands. And wee Kate is just as bad. Er . . . You really can't complain about legislation that you voted for.
I'm not, as this is the same RSPB that decreed that their Dovestone reserve on Saddleworth Moor near Manchester be left to grow rank 'for the birds'.
And all it has done is catch fire every second year and wipe out every species over thousands of acres. It's not "habitat management", it's wanton criminal negligence.
And more to the point, when they start to restrict muirburn and the hills are glowing in the distance, Patrick Harvey, Ross Greer, Maggie Chapman, Mark Ruskell, Lorna Slater, Ariane Burgess and Gillian Mackay won't be held accountable in the dock for the destruction as they should be, and they sure as hell won't be volunteering to put the flames out, they'll be too busy blaming climate change in front of the cameras and patting themselves on the back.
Dovestone:
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It does fit in well with the climate catastophe news feed though!
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- JanDeGrootLand
If you asked our MsP, you would get a rambling answer, nothing to do with the question.If you asked our Msp it would be westminsters fault
If you bring up any problem with her, don't hold your breath for any follow up.
toquark
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Eminently depressing really. They've banned snaring completely.
It's all very well outlining the problems with the legislation, but we've been doing that for decades (during the Labour/Lid Dem administration too, long before the SNP & greens came along) to no avail. It doesn't make a whit of difference.
Put quite simply, they hate us. It doesn't matter what we say or do, they'll always hate us and they'll do anything they can to stick the knife in. They used to pretend to care about foxes, then they pretended to care about mountain hares, now its climate change. They will always find something to weaponise against us.
It's all very well outlining the problems with the legislation, but we've been doing that for decades (during the Labour/Lid Dem administration too, long before the SNP & greens came along) to no avail. It doesn't make a whit of difference.
Put quite simply, they hate us. It doesn't matter what we say or do, they'll always hate us and they'll do anything they can to stick the knife in. They used to pretend to care about foxes, then they pretended to care about mountain hares, now its climate change. They will always find something to weaponise against us.
One bit I read said you would need to carry out a peatland survey first, before getting a licence. Other bit suggested there would be no burning on peat at all so not sure what's left to burn after that.
Exactly, it’s all part of managing the climate change narrative, the politicians we have enacting the madness are no more than useful idiots, I’m pretty convinced this is coming from a lot further up as the exact same thing is happening elsewhere in the world.
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- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
The attitudes of especially the two devolved administrations towards farming and the countryside, is why both my children have jobs away from farming, and no intention of ever farming. I wonder how many other farmers have children with the same views?
toquark
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Scotland and Wales have the same politics, they are similar small, post industrial countries with the same urban centric populations driven by the same petty grievances against their big boy neighbour (and anyone with more than them), and a feeble belief that they could do it better just by being different.
Unlike England, where I believe bad ag policy is largely misguided, as opposed to ideological, in our Celtic people’s republics it’s an agenda driven by pure hatred.
It’s always been a feature of politics here, it doesn’t matter who’s in power it just is what it is, and is the primary reason why I opposed and continue to oppose the very existence of the devolved parliaments.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Yawn
toquark
Member
You need to get an early night
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
You can oppose devolution all you like, its not going away.
Scotland looks after its farmers far better than england and has done for years.
Yet still you hate scotgov.
toquark
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I know. One can always dream.
I don’t hate them, but they hate me. What other conclusion can be drawn given that every policy they enact makes life harder/more expensive/less enjoyable/less profitable/less free?
There was a brief respite during the early SNP administration when they were led by pragmatists, but now we’re being greenwashed as quickly as anywhere and the green tail wagging the SNP dog amplifies the insanity ten fold when compared to England. I accept that England is not a great comparison. It’s pretty pish everywhere.