Muirburn scotland

[hoff135]

Looks like the wonderful scot gov have managed to push through something today, can't find out if it's an immediate ban or not. Some sort of licensing scheme apparently

 

[melted welly]

Looks like the wonderful scot gov have managed to push through something today, can't find out if it's an immediate ban or not. Some sort of licensing scheme apparently

Take a minute to think of all the good things that have come out of holyrood recently though and all the aspects of life that have been improved by state intervention.


..no?

Me neither.

 

[Yale]

Looks like the wonderful scot gov have managed to push through something today, can't find out if it's an immediate ban or not. Some sort of licensing scheme apparently

A bit more detail?

 

[hoff135]

A bit more detail?

I can't find much but it's hidden in this article

'Gamechanger' Scottish wildlife law passes final vote

It includes a licensing scheme for grouse shoots, a ban on snares and controls on moorland burning.

www.bbc.com

Muirburn to be strictly licenced

 

[Dave6170]

They really do hate people in the countryside

 

[hoff135]

They really do hate people in the countryside

Crazy greens will be celebrating again

 

[livestock 1]

A licensing scheme as they put it would likely mean that could be revoked which would likely cause people to look for trouble

 

[DrDunc]

Crazy greens will be celebrating again

Seven (7!) green MSPs hold the balance of power. If our prime cut minister Hamsa Useless wants any legislation passed, be it the multi million agri support scheme (whatever that's debacle is to become), or which colour parliament bog paper they wipe their arses upon, he needs the lonely looney greens' support

Without muirburn, the Heather becomes old, rank, and soon dead from beatles. The whole ecology of the once beautiful purple hills is irrevocably altered. I'm really surprised the likes of the RSPB didn't vociferously object to this madness, for the effects of banning muirburn are well known

Presumably the victory of "dealing a blow" to the toffs who like to blooter grouse for sport outweighed the damage to wildlife and delicate fauna that will be caused by this muirburn ban madness?

I hope the idiots responsible for this ecological disaster in the making become cold and hungry, for only then is there hope they'll learn to appreciate our rural way of life

But during the wait for sense to prevail, I'd recommend not holding breath

 

[Bobby Spray]

The irony is that by banning controlled burning on Peat land to protect it. The more likely it is to be destroyed in a large out of control wild fire. But hey ho toffs.

 

[Dry Rot]

In theory, a licence system would control those who don't know how to burn correctly or blanket burn. So once again control comes down to the quality of the 'experts'. Better education would be no bad thing. Many years ago a very good gamekeeper asked me, with a plaintive look on his face, "They keep telling me to burn the heather so we keep the right length for grouse and sheep, but nobody tells me what that is!".

 

[Macsky]

The irony is that by banning controlled burning on Peat land to protect it. The more likely it is to be destroyed in a large out of control wild fire. But hey ho toffs.

Exactly this. But they don’t actually care, they just want to exert power over those who manage land. They are driven by envy and hatred.

 

[melted welly]

Exactly this. But they don’t actually care, they just want to exert power over those who manage land. They are driven by envy and hatred.

It’s all about equality in the eyes of the woke. So the opinion of a hill farmer carries as much weight as someone who drove through the area once and got sent a link to a consultation over Facebook. Everyone is a stakeholder.

We put in for a turbine years ago, rural Angus. The objections came from as far away as London and the Isle of Wight. One very vociferous opponent who owned a bookshop in Edinburgh (hour and a half’s drive away) wrote emotionally of how a favourite walk would be ruined, however didn’t seem aware the route referenced had been impassable since the early 90’s.

 

[Macsky]

It’s all about equality in the eyes of the woke. So the opinion of a hill farmer carries as much weight as someone who drove through the area once and got sent a link to a consultation over Facebook. Everyone is a stakeholder.

We put in for a turbine years ago, rural Angus. The objections came from as far away as London and the Isle of Wight. One very vociferous opponent who owned a bookshop in Edinburgh (hour and a half’s drive away) wrote emotionally of how a favourite walk would be ruined, however didn’t seem aware the route referenced had been impassable since the early 90’s.

Even worse….. ‘equity’, as perceived by women with pink/blue hair.

 

[hoff135]

Seven (7!) green MSPs hold the balance of power. If our prime cut minister Hamsa Useless wants any legislation passed, be it the multi million agri support scheme (whatever that's debacle is to become), or which colour parliament bog paper they wipe their arses upon, he needs the lonely looney greens' support

Without muirburn, the Heather becomes old, rank, and soon dead from beatles. The whole ecology of the once beautiful purple hills is irrevocably altered. I'm really surprised the likes of the RSPB didn't vociferously object to this madness, for the effects of banning muirburn are well known

Presumably the victory of "dealing a blow" to the toffs who like to blooter grouse for sport outweighed the damage to wildlife and delicate fauna that will be caused by this muirburn ban madness?

I hope the idiots responsible for this ecological disaster in the making become cold and hungry, for only then is there hope they'll learn to appreciate our rural way of life

But during the wait for sense to prevail, I'd recommend not holding breath

They are on an environmental crusade and are convinced they know how to save the planet. As you say, old Heather will support no deer or sheep, so no insects attracted to their droppings, so no food for small birds, or birds of prey. Its not rocket science but is well above the intelligence levels of the likes of harvie and slater

 

[Welderloon]

What do these rockets think is going to happen to upland Scotland when there is no people left in rural areas?
Do they think that the landscape is going to stay as it is?

You should never let people from outwith your country become influential decision makers in your country, it never ends well.

Another nail in the coffin of the devolved government in Scotland, the end can't come soon enough.

 

[hoff135]

What do these rockets think is going to happen to upland Scotland when there is no people left in rural areas?
Do they think that the landscape is going to stay as it is?

You should never let people from outwith your country become influential decision makers in your country, it never ends well.

Another nail in the coffin of the devolved government in Scotland, the end can't come soon enough.

Rewinding and net zero is the new religion for this lot, nothing else matters.

There's no other word for it, they are completely crazy

 

[Vader]

It's simple to understand.
Its simply anti shooting,
Rspb and greens, etc dont care about science or nature as long as shooting is stopped.
All data shows there is more wildlife on ground with shoots than not.
Bit they don't care.

 

[hoff135]

It's simple to understand.
Its simply anti shooting,
Rspb and greens, etc dont care about science or nature as long as shooting is stopped.
All data shows there is more wildlife on ground with shoots than not.
Bit they don't care.

Anti shooting and anti farming. Probably the end of sheep on the hill for me each autumn. Its mostly heather and without a decent bit burnt every year or 2 it will be pretty useless. Of course my mate said any fool can drop a match

 

[Dave6170]

Just wait some tourist will have a bbq and they won’t be able to stop the fire!

 

[hoff135]

Just wait some tourist will have a bbq and they won’t be able to stop the fire!

Yep, anyone who's tried a beater in long heather knows the score there