You are quite right Tacon did say that!
Red Tractor Officially Scrap The GFC
- Thread starter Grass And Grain
- Start date
Their was also £295,000 of farmers money sent to RT by AHDB without our knowlage for the same purpose, so is this in addition to the £250,000 spent by RT?
- Location
- Yorks
I didn't know about that. Is this correct?
yes
ahdb funded RT until we asked why and they stopped - it was best part of 250k a YEAR for many years so millions in total over the years
then it’s reported that RT spent nr 300k on developing GFC over the last 2-3 years …….. now scrapped
those 2 “misguided” management issues alone have wasted massive amounts of farmers money
a group of tff individuals and then later what became the BFU have saved the industry this already via their lobbying and challenges on social media
think it’s being confused with the 250k pa funding from AHDB to RT we already got stopped Steve ?
- Location
- Yorks
Guess so.
- Location
- south norfolk, uk
Supermarkets, corporate members etc.
- Location
- Essex
Don't forget the board is appointed by the owners, including ahdb and NFU. No one else can appoint the board.
That board, including Will Jackson and Tom Bradshaw voted unanimously for the GFC. This could only have happened with the approval of the ownership body.
There's no getting away from that. The GFC was of their own making. Jim and Christine are only appointees.
Agree. The way this whole thing has been handled is shocking. Neither are fit to be in their roles.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
People like him are the problem, heading up the big estates, licking whichever arsehole needs licking and no skin in the game. Wish he would crawl back into whatever hole he came out of.
shelly reynolds
Member
Remember The Poll Tax........
What about a refund? Would there be a case to claim this money back? or at least force them to justify the spend and account for this money.
If we have been over charged for assurance just so they can go on empire building with this money, on a project that has nothing to do with food safety, we as farmers should not be paying .
Homesy
Member
- Location
- North West Devon
NO PREMIUM NO ASSURANCE
Our statutory laws and standards are already stricter and higher than most. Assurance is not needed if there is no premium. The NFU and AHDB were part of the GFC and are still part of Red Tractor. Now GFC has gone they are now trying to re-establish their authority and cling onto the gravy train.
NFU claim that they represent all farmers. They do not represent me.
It is up to the relevant authorities, FSA, EA etc to ensure standards are met not some quango inventing rules to justify their own existance and fees.
Red tractor needs to go.
i agree 100% ^^^
the reviews should ask this question before any other and if there is no premium for anything above and beyond statutory law then RT should be scrapped immediately
however if farm assurance or even gfc offer members a worthwhile premium over unassured then i’m happy for that CHOICE to exist
CHOICE and PREMIUM must be genuine however which is almost impossible to maintain when you have a monopoly situation
RT are pretty skint from what i understand so not sure how they could fund any refund etc
at the very least those responsible should be accountable, it’s utterly ridiculous to believe RT can continue with existing management/ leadership and board structure
Can the next immediate target please be to get RT to make an exception and let us use unprotected urea at least until the end of April as a one off derogation? It’s not like it’s been exceptionally wet is it? As per FW defra insist they won’t help us, but surely since defra have given (how that was allowed I’ll never know) the policing of it to RT we can get them to give the derogation? Sorry @Grass And Grain another little job for you but it’s really getting rather urgent……
Also it’s not like most of the imported cereals will have used unprotected urea all through their growth
Also it’s not like most of the imported cereals will have used unprotected urea all through their growth
- Location
- Northumberland
will it not all be spread by 31st March? 
- Location
- Northumberland
I can foresee a big increase in RT fees to cover the huge amounts that have been wasted.
If/when this is announced we should absolutely refuse to pay any increase.
If/when this is announced we should absolutely refuse to pay any increase.
SilliamWhale
Member
Ignore it.
Don't give them the power to "let us" use Urea as it reaffirms their role which is what they want you to believe is important.
So just do what you want and ignore them
- Location
- Bedfordshire
How on earth the NFU ever agreed to allow Red Tractor to police the use of urea is beyond me. Oh yes I remember, all on the same train, indeed in the same carriage.