Banana shortage

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
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Kidds

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Horticulture
f**k me, apples are more exotic here than bananas 🤦‍♂️
You can buy Australian Pink Lady apples cheaper here than you can in Australia.
You can get them 2 for a pound, last time I was in Australia which was pre covid they were a dollar each.
Bananas are stupidly low here and are less than £1/kilo and that is quite a big increase compared to just a few years back. Very cheap food.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
No thats drivel, ask a guy on the street about public goods and natural capital theyll laugh at you, they only care about whats left from their wages at the months end

ask them if they are ok for bananas or the great british lamb shortage 🤣. they will care less about that than badgers
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
( I don’t understand that at all myself, as a grain producer my produce & production methods HAVE to meet the standards of the importing country, as they simply won’t buy it otherwise ? 🤷‍♂️),

uk will take your neonic treated osr or crl treated wheat no questions asked

^^ just a couple examples but imports to the uk are allowed even if production or welfare standards would be illegal in the uk


in a nutshell that’s why we are pretty upset / disadvantaged and uncompetitive in world markets now
 

robs1

Member
India ( our largest chickpea market ) still has a 68% import duty on chickpeas, so there are plenty of chickpeas here looking for alternate homes if you're interested


slightly off topic, but that raises an interesting question

I read all the time on TFF about concerns that the UK is “forced” to accept food imports, even if they don’t meet your particular standards ( I don’t understand that at all myself, as a grain producer my produce & production methods HAVE to meet the standards of the importing country, as they simply won’t buy it otherwise ? 🤷‍♂️), but India has managed to maintain a 68% import duty on chickpeas ( mainly Australia & Canada, being the 2 largest suppliers ) for a number of years, to “protect” its farmers . . .

why does India have more control over food imports than the UK ?
The standards that are in force for imports are different to the standards we are made to abide by.
Neo nics not allowed here but might be elsewhere, they are banned here for environmental reasons not human health reasons so products grown using them are allowed here, same with GM products,
Beef reared using hormones are still banned ( I believe) because there is some thoughts they might have an effect on humans too. We aren't allowed to use unprotected urea from 1st April due to some stupid concerns that some might escape into the air yet I suspect you use it in a much hotter climate
 
uk will take your neonic treated osr or crl treated wheat no questions asked

^^ just a couple examples but imports to the uk are allowed even if production or welfare standards would be illegal in the uk


in a nutshell that’s why we are pretty upset / disadvantaged and uncompetitive in world markets now
Now you know how we felt for the last 50 years with no subs....

Welcome to our world.

Ant...
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Now you know how we felt for the last 50 years with no subs....

Welcome to our world.

Ant...

we wouldn't need subs if all imports to the UK had to meet our legal standards re product use and welfare

there would be not a single tonne of eastern European OSR or wheat in the UK if that was the case, growm with neonics and CTL etc or any GM soya or wheat from USA / Canada and rest of world


I would swap any sub for imports needing to meet UK law / stadards in a heartbeat .......... and become a VERY wealthy man !


PS - UK food production is no longer subsidised at all BTW . Only subs UK farmers can get now are for environmental value
 
we wouldn't need subs if all imports to the UK had to meet our legal standards re product use and welfare

there would be not a single tonne of eastern European OSR or wheat in the UK if that was the case, growm with neonics and CTL etc or any GM soya or wheat from USA / Canada and rest of world


I would swap any sub for imports needing to meet UK law / stadards in a heartbeat .......... and become a VERY wealthy man !


PS - UK food production is no longer subsidised at all BTW . Only subs UK farmers can get now are for environmental value
Still half of BPS?
 
we wouldn't need subs if all imports to the UK had to meet our legal stadrads re product use and welfare

there would be not a single tonne of eastern European OSR or wheat in the UK if that was the case


I would swap any sub for imports needing to meet UK stadards in a heartbeat .......... and become a VERY wealthy man !


PS - UK food production is no longer subsidised at all BTW . Only subs UK farmers can get now are for environmental value
We have the same issues without subs,...for the last 50 plus years...youve gone without subs for a week and crying...you boys need to adapt and overcome like Aussie farmers did.



Ant....
 

Hjcarter

Member
You can buy Australian Pink Lady apples cheaper here than you can in Australia.
You can get them 2 for a pound, last time I was in Australia which was pre covid they were a dollar each.
Bananas are stupidly low here and are less than £1/kilo and that is quite a big increase compared to just a few years back. Very cheap food.
Where can you get 2 Australian pink ladies for a pound????

I would have thought you'd have to buy them at least a couple of drinks before anything else and that would be £20 for a kickoff???

...or have I got the wrong end of the stick again...
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Market day so my local veg market stall had better bananas & plenty of them, where I shop usually anyway.

Banana's have been 45 pence a pound for about 30 years when I was retailing. Partly why I gave up retailing.
You'll have your fix, then 😀

The quality of banananas in the shop, or on the fruit and veg stall is what I look out for. There's still an art in storing and ripening them, so if the retailer has that, it's likely the rest of their fresh offer will be good.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
We have the same issues without subs,...for the last 50 plus years...youve gone without subs for a week and crying...you boys need to adapt and overcome like Aussie farmers did.



Ant....

as a farmer i'm not bothered by no subs - i've wanted them gone all my farming career even though as a land owner they have made me wealthy

As a UK farmer who can't use CTL, Neonics or GM tech and must have farm level assurance we can't compete with imports grown to lower than UK legal welfare or production standards however - that is not a level playing field
 
as a farmer i'm not bothered by no subs - i've wanted them gone all my farming career even though as a land owner they have made me wealthy

As a UK farmer who can't use CTL, Neonics or GM tech and must have farm level assurance we can't compete with imports grown to lower than UK legal welfare or production standards however - that is not a level playing field
Nor was it level when you had subs and we had squat.

Rabbit stew done right is delightful they tell me, and marinated 10 year old merino ewes.

Ant..
 

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