£91 to raise a fat lamb???

[CopperBeech]

Why don't you lot all bugger off out of it and become brick layers then?

Give us new entrants a chance. . . . .

Serious question.

P.S A Bricky is doing very well if he's taking home £50 an hour.

 

[danjen]

COP contracts...

So you think these are good?

 

[M-J-G]

I read threads like this on here often, my mate is s bricklayer I have never discussed money with him before until yesterday he asked how was farming I was explaining it wasn't brilliant at the moment , couldn't believe it when he said what he was earning !! £260 a day for 9 till three !!! No paper work makes farming look utterly ridicules !

Yep, most tradesmen work on a rate of about £200 a day. And some spend plenty of the day not working too.

But!!!! Plenty of farmers are getting a SFP that should make a pretty good wage, so if farming is done even close to profitability there should be money coming in. This is no doubt going to get plenty of people going, but if farming across Europe were making high levels of profit, the payments would quickly stop.

Another slant on it is, that if farmers have money they can't hold onto it, high profits would see land making ridiculous sale and rental prices, and a lot more deft prices for pedigree stock etc.

Do people really expect the public to pay higher prices for British produce when tales of the supposedly cash stripped farmers being able to afford 140 grand bulls are hitting the headlines.

I think most will agree that it doesn't look good.

 

[jackstor]

Worked out ok for the milk boys, maybe best to get into it when the lamb price is flying so people ridicule you for a couple of years and then wish they were you when the market goes the other way

Not a dairy farmer, but looking from the outside COP contracts for milk has worked for a very small % of dairy farmers. It has allowed the supermarkets to say they are paying a premium for their milk, which is only a small % of the milk they sell, while they get the rest of the milk as cheap as possible.
In the sheep industry it would be another way for the supermarkets to cut out live auctions, and therefore give them more control over setting the price.

 

[multi power]

How many fat lambs would normally sell for more that £91?
I'm thinking not that many?

 

[Gulli]

So you think these are good?

I think they are better than selling on the spot market

Not a dairy farmer, but looking from the outside COP contracts for milk has worked for a very small % of dairy farmers. It has allowed the supermarkets to say they are paying a premium for their milk, which is only a small % of the milk they sell, while they get the rest of the milk as cheap as possible.
In the sheep industry it would be another way for the supermarkets to cut out live auctions, and therefore give them more control over setting the price.

Toungue mostly in cheek. COP contracts could work for lamb but we are a much different market to milk and I don't think they are a particularly good idea

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Why don't you lot all bugger off out of it and become brick layers then?

Give us new entrants a chance. . . . .

Serious question.

P.S A Bricky is doing very well if he's taking home £50 an hour.

In 40 years time you will be this lot, old miserable and walking like your pushing against the wind

 

[Derrick Hughes]

How many fat lambs would normally sell for more that £91?
I'm thinking not that many?

Lambs not making that in the shop

 

[Fossil]

This might be controversial, but I don’t think lamb can go up. People cannot afford to eat it except as a treat at current prices. Same with better cuts of beef.

 

[Farmer Roy]

That's why people eat chicken . . .

 

[Turra farmer]

I read threads like this on here often, my mate is s bricklayer I have never discussed money with him before until yesterday he asked how was farming I was explaining it wasn't brilliant at the moment , couldn't believe it when he said what he was earning !! £260 a day for 9 till three !!! No paper work makes farming look utterly ridicules !

That might be achievable on warehouse walls or building round straightforward timber frame kits , but he must be a flyer , and defo won't be fit for it when he is mid 40s and I'd think he is working 7 till 3 minimum

 

[Turra farmer]

Why don't you lot all bugger off out of it and become brick layers then?

Give us new entrants a chance. . . . .

Serious question.

P.S A Bricky is doing very well if he's taking home £50 an hour.

That will be his gross ,

 

[Hilly]

That might be achievable on warehouse walls or building round straightforward timber frame kits , but he must be a flyer , and defo won't be fit for it when he is mid 40s and I'd think he is working 7 till 3 minimum

hes nearly 50 gets on site for 8.30 paid traveling time and leaves at 3.

 

[Hilly]

That will be his gross ,

Aye probably, never here him moan.

 

[gone up the hill]

This might be controversial, but I don’t think lamb can go up. People cannot afford to eat it except as a treat at current prices. Same with better cuts of beef.

Mark up on beef and lamb from farm gate to shop shelve is nearly 100% take off costs/ profit for the killing plant/ supermarket etc post farm gate of say 50% leaves a 50% profit share for the supermarket.

Prices don't need to go up in the shop to enable farmers to get a better return.

Intrestingly at my local supermarket plenty of people go to the beef counter to buy beef, trouble is the shelves are always empty!!

 

[kiwi pom]

Mark up on beef and lamb from farm gate to shop shelve is nearly 100% take off costs/ profit for the killing plant/ supermarket etc post farm gate of say 50% leaves a 50% profit share for the supermarket.

Prices don't need to go up in the shop to enable farmers to get a better return.

Intrestingly at my local supermarket plenty of people go to the beef counter to buy beef, trouble is the shelves are always empty!!

So why don't farmers get together and buy or build a killing plant and double their money? Control everything from farm gate to supermarket RDC.

 

[Pond digger]

So why don't farmers get together and buy or build a killing plant and double their money? Control everything from farm gate to supermarket RDC.

Why not build a supermarket as well?

 

[Henarar]

Why not build a supermarket as well?

why not build two ?

 

[Woolly]

why not build two ?

No need:
https://thefoodassembly.com/en

 

[crazy_bull]

Why not build a supermarket as well?

Because they would soon realise it would be cheaper to buy in off other farmers rather than produce themselves.....

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