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£91 to raise a fat lamb???

I read threads like this on here often, my mate is s bricklayer I have never discussed money with him before until yesterday he asked how was farming I was explaining it wasn't brilliant at the moment , couldn't believe it when he said what he was earning !! £260 a day for 9 till three !!! No paper work makes farming look utterly ridicules !

Yep, most tradesmen work on a rate of about £200 a day. And some spend plenty of the day not working too.

But!!!! Plenty of farmers are getting a SFP that should make a pretty good wage, so if farming is done even close to profitability there should be money coming in. This is no doubt going to get plenty of people going, but if farming across Europe were making high levels of profit, the payments would quickly stop.

Another slant on it is, that if farmers have money they can't hold onto it, high profits would see land making ridiculous sale and rental prices, and a lot more deft prices for pedigree stock etc.

Do people really expect the public to pay higher prices for British produce when tales of the supposedly cash stripped farmers being able to afford 140 grand bulls are hitting the headlines.

I think most will agree that it doesn't look good.
 

jackstor

Member
Location
Carlisle
Worked out ok for the milk boys, maybe best to get into it when the lamb price is flying so people ridicule you for a couple of years and then wish they were you when the market goes the other way

Not a dairy farmer, but looking from the outside COP contracts for milk has worked for a very small % of dairy farmers. It has allowed the supermarkets to say they are paying a premium for their milk, which is only a small % of the milk they sell, while they get the rest of the milk as cheap as possible.
In the sheep industry it would be another way for the supermarkets to cut out live auctions, and therefore give them more control over setting the price.
 

Gulli

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
So you think these are good?
I think they are better than selling on the spot market

Not a dairy farmer, but looking from the outside COP contracts for milk has worked for a very small % of dairy farmers. It has allowed the supermarkets to say they are paying a premium for their milk, which is only a small % of the milk they sell, while they get the rest of the milk as cheap as possible.
In the sheep industry it would be another way for the supermarkets to cut out live auctions, and therefore give them more control over setting the price.
Toungue mostly in cheek. COP contracts could work for lamb but we are a much different market to milk and I don't think they are a particularly good idea
 

Turra farmer

Never Forgotten
Honorary Member
I read threads like this on here often, my mate is s bricklayer I have never discussed money with him before until yesterday he asked how was farming I was explaining it wasn't brilliant at the moment , couldn't believe it when he said what he was earning !! £260 a day for 9 till three !!! No paper work makes farming look utterly ridicules !

That might be achievable on warehouse walls or building round straightforward timber frame kits , but he must be a flyer , and defo won't be fit for it when he is mid 40s and I'd think he is working 7 till 3 minimum
 
Location
Devon
This might be controversial, but I don’t think lamb can go up. People cannot afford to eat it except as a treat at current prices. Same with better cuts of beef.

Mark up on beef and lamb from farm gate to shop shelve is nearly 100% take off costs/ profit for the killing plant/ supermarket etc post farm gate of say 50% leaves a 50% profit share for the supermarket.

Prices don't need to go up in the shop to enable farmers to get a better return.

Intrestingly at my local supermarket plenty of people go to the beef counter to buy beef, trouble is the shelves are always empty!!
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Mark up on beef and lamb from farm gate to shop shelve is nearly 100% take off costs/ profit for the killing plant/ supermarket etc post farm gate of say 50% leaves a 50% profit share for the supermarket.

Prices don't need to go up in the shop to enable farmers to get a better return.

Intrestingly at my local supermarket plenty of people go to the beef counter to buy beef, trouble is the shelves are always empty!!

So why don't farmers get together and buy or build a killing plant and double their money? Control everything from farm gate to supermarket RDC.
 

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On Thursday 26th September, we’re holding a webinar for farmers to go through the guidance, actions and detail for the expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer. This was planned for end of May, but had to be delayed due to the general election. We apologise about that.

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