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Al R

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
West Wales
Do they have scab? Try being in areas where you have totally closed flocks and then thousands of hill ewes and store lambs get sent down with no warning. Huge problem in the area for those that do keep sheep, you can’t take on land a few miles away because you know the farm next door takes tack in.
 
Some sheep farmers are their own worst enemy, there’s about 200 welsh on a 10 acre field next to me...........well, there were, some have now escaped, others given up on life, counted 7 dead when I went for a wander first thing Thursday morning, they still haven’t been moved, well, 3 of them probably had been, either that or they’d died on top of each other in a corner.
 
YOUR OWN sheep got out through YOUR OWN fence! The only bad manners are YOUR OWN for having the arrogance to blame your neighbour rather than apologise! General rule is you fence your stock in, which you didn't
Ok so it's ok someone elses sheep on our land? Shouldn't they be fenced in as a rule of thumb? There is a shaw a ditch and 5 strands of excellent ht barbwire but im the arsehole? There boundary hasn't got a thing.
 
Location
southwest
Who's stock strayed? Yours or theirs?

I've had the same problem with one of my neighbours in the past. Came into my yard shouting the odds about me not keeping my fences up so his stock got out. Told him, firmly, that I fence my stock in and he should do the same.

Which he later did.
 
I do get your point but he hasn't got any fences. Diddly squat.
Its impossible for the ram to get through the fence so I guess the temptation of ewes on OUR land strutting up our fence line on our land hes gone over the top. I'm no saint but least I've made 100% more effort than he has?
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Checked our sheep on 5 strands of good barb and keep sheep turned up in next field nose to nose. As our tups been in 6 weeks they thought a load of cull ewes would be better and got out. 1 now limping.
Luckily theres an old gate I got in there to re catch our rams and have now moved the group away to next field that's netted but still nose to nose. No other land without going in trailer so it looked like I'm going to have to move them. Just bad manners with risk of disease.

Sorry but anybody who thinks using strands of barb wire is adequate fencing to keep there sheep in or somebody else’s sheep out ESPECIALLY A BOUNDARY FENCE!! regardless wants a length of the blue stuff round the back of the head ??‍♂️ stock net or your always going to have the risk of it happening... you can’t expect somebody else to not put tips out with there ewes or put tips on there own land just because you want too put ewes in your field...
 
Sorry but anybody who thinks using strands of barb wire is adequate fencing to keep there sheep in or somebody else’s sheep out ESPECIALLY A BOUNDARY FENCE!! regardless wants a length of the blue stuff round the back of the head ??‍♂️ stock net or your always going to have the risk of it happening... you can’t expect somebody else to not put tips out with there ewes or put tips on there own land just because you want too put ewes in your field...
Are they your sheep? If so I'm taking my fence down in a mo, have fun getting your sheep back! After all it's my fence keeping your sheep in.
Also some of u lot are dame rude, do you know me?
 
Location
southwest
Am I missing something here? Next door's stock didn't get out but it's his fault that someone else's stock got in with his?

OP has put up a 5 strand barb that his stock broke through, so next door should put up a hot fence to solve the problem of (to him) next door's stock straying?

So, on that logic, if next door's stock got in with yours, it would be your fault!
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
Are they your sheep? If so I'm taking my fence down in a mo, have fun getting your sheep back! After all it's my fence keeping your sheep in.
Also some of u lot are dame rude, do you know me?

Not my sheep at all and not got a clue who you are but youv fenced your stock in with unsuitable fencing and your moaning that they got out or a tup has gotten in...

My neighbour looks after his fences and I look after my fences, some of my boundaries are his fences ... it would be bloody stupid for me to put another fence up right next too it .. but it’s a proper fence! So if my sheep wreck it or get through it... I sort it... if his do the same he will sort it... but it’s a proper fence so that doesn’t happen and everybody sleeps at night happy
 
Not my sheep at all and not got a clue who you are but youv fenced your stock in with unsuitable fencing and your moaning that they got out or a tup has gotten in...

My neighbour looks after his fences and I look after my fences, some of my boundaries are his fences ... it would be bloody stupid for me to put another fence up right next too it .. but it’s a proper fence! So if my sheep wreck it or get through it... I sort it... if his do the same he will sort it... but it’s a proper fence so that doesn’t happen and everybody sleeps at night happy
This land owner isnt the owner of the other sheep they are just keepers. The boundary isnt our fence line, they are in our woods ditches etc.
Also if your neighbour was a wheeler dealer of cull ewes would you be happy for his sheep to come onto your land with the associated disease risk?
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
This land owner isnt the owner of the other sheep they are just keepers. The boundary isnt our fence line, they are in our woods ditches etc.
Also if your neighbour was a wheeler dealer of cull ewes would you be happy for his sheep to come onto your land with the associated disease risk?

As I said if your boundary was secure you’d have no problems... don’t know how people can farm without a secure boundary it’s just asking for trouble and a headache
 
As I said if your boundary was secure you’d have no problems... don’t know how people can farm without a secure boundary it’s just asking for trouble and a headache
You wouldnt worry about disease then with them touching through be it 5 strands of barb,stock net deer fencing while on your land? You would just accept the disease risk?
To be picky they are now on the 20 acres that we got next to the other field. my job for tomorrow is to move them all off even though grass there as the neighbouring sheep are not fenced in there own land and are still in our woods ditches and right nose to nose, or do i wait for the itch spreading trough own 3000 sheep or the tups hanging from the 2 top strands of barb over the stock net.
Now ive got to isolate these sheep in case of disease, irrespective of the ram jumping the fences they are touching though the stock net.
And yet im still branded the bad farmer?
 

Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
You wouldnt worry about disease then with them touching through be it 5 strands of barb,stock net deer fencing while on your land? You would just accept the disease risk?
To be picky they are now on the 20 acres that we got next to the other field. my job for tomorrow is to move them all off even though grass there as the neighbouring sheep are not fenced in there own land and are still in our woods ditches and right nose to nose, or do i wait for the itch spreading trough own 3000 sheep or the tups hanging from the 2 top strands of barb over the stock net.
Now ive got to isolate these sheep in case of disease, irrespective of the ram jumping the fences they are touching though the stock net.
And yet im still branded the bad farmer?

I’d worry about the disease but if I knew I farmed next door too a dealer I’d make sure that my farm was like Fort Knox not 5 strands of barb which sheep would get through happy as Larry if they wanted too ....
 

Bury the Trash

Member
Mixed Farmer
Op ,why dont you hog ring net up against your barb wire. ? As being possibly the quickest solution, it's not double fence I know, which sounds to me like whats needed in the situation.
 

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