1594 vr ih 956 classic tractor

[davedb]

CT is by far the best mag its the only one i will look forward to buying every month some of the best issues are the ones with the weird and wounderfull machines such as the low ground pressure tractors ect, id rather read about the restoration of a 80's/ 90's tractor that is being put back to work than a 135 that is polish daily and drove around the rural roads the odd sunday for no apparent reason.
so in other words rory keep on as you are i think your doing a good job, this last issue was ruined by all the hype john created about his jerkomatic brown if he had remained quiet and let us read about it in the mag and not on the internet it would of been alot better tbh.

o and any chance of some more fleet profiles, i really like the contractor and farmers story who are using older tractors, there was a good one afew years ago with 3000 series mf's, some more of the same would be nice

 

[grumpy]

CT is by far the best mag its the only one i will look forward to buying every month some of the best issues are the ones with the weird and wounderfull machines such as the low ground pressure tractors ect, id rather read about the restoration of a 80's/ 90's tractor that is being put back to work than a 135 that is polish daily and drove around the rural roads the odd sunday for no apparent reason.
so in other words rory keep on as you are i think your doing a good job, this last issue was ruined by all the hype john created about his jerkomatic brown if he had remained quiet and let us read about it in the mag and not on the internet it would of been alot better tbh.

o and any chance of some more fleet profiles, i really like the contractor and farmers story who are using older tractors, there was a good one afew years ago with 3000 series mf's, some more of the same would be nice

seriously? playboy?

 

[davedb]

60+ mag i think you mean

 

[multi power]

Classic Tractor is always a good read a credit to Rory and his team I could be in the minority here but i also like to read about something different, tractors i don't know and can't relate to interest me Dr Dunc hit the nail on the head with his quote "A lot of those weird and wonderful things were full of wonderfully innovative engineering"

How about an article on the 1960-1980's grant based drainage boom various machines were manufactured usually Ford based but it's a hot topic after last season

even a Russian built Kirovet!

id like to see a modern john deere try whats in that video

 

[rorsday]

Zetor,
Some good suggestions there. Perhaps I have given the impression that we are anti-variety when this of course is not the case. There are around 80 pages of editorial in each issue and there is room for looking at topics such as older self-propelled sprayers, tractor-based drainage machines, east European tractors, etc, etc. Anything, as they say, is possible, providing we can source good pictures and 'new' background info that isn't merely copied and pasted from Google, which is what some magazines seem content to do but isn't our style.

R Day

 

[Muck Spreader]

I would like to see a few more articles or shoot outs on equipment, for example I still find I am in the dark about what's tillage equipment is good and what's crap on my light land. Also some detailed buyers guides to classic tractors and equipment maybe interesting and useful as all my classics have to still earn their keep.

 

[Thick Farmer]

I just read the article in question and it was heavily biased towards the 956. John, you are right to be annoyed.

 

[John 1594]

I just read the article in question and it was heavily biased towards the 956. John, you are right to be annoyed.

thankyou, glad im not the only one that thought i got a rough deal out of it considering my tractor "won" the day

 

[wdah/him]

at rorsday

any chance of a return visit to some of the previous fleet profiles to see what they upgraded or how they are getting on, otherwise the mag is doing alright, wouldnt mind some of the more valmet content or how about where are export tractors go and what the other operators think of them, we have lost quite a few of what will be classics to the export market. anyway keep it up

 

[FonterraFarmer]

at rorsday

any chance of a return visit to some of the previous fleet profiles to see what they upgraded or how they are getting on, otherwise the mag is doing alright, wouldnt mind some of the more valmet content or how about where are export tractors go and what the other operators think of them, we have lost quite a few of what will be classics to the export market. anyway keep it up

I'd think it would be interesting to see some tractor tests on tractors that have done 20-25000 hours , what problems they have had, and service/R&M costs over that time too.There be a few Valmet/Valtra Mega/8000's that have done those sort of hours out there.

 

[rorsday]

John - your tractor did win the day in terms of performance/output and fuel consumption and we thought that was made clear. Other comments were of a subjective nature (ref the quality of the cab trim, design, etc). Your 1594 performed very well on the day and did you proud.

wdah/him - Your comment on fleet profiles is noted. We do hear this from time to time and it would be good to go back and see what some of the farmers who we profiled 10+ years ago are now running. However, saying this, we don't really like going over old ground too often and there might be a danger of doing this in recapping on the previous content of a fleet. Something for us to consider though.

FonterraFarmer - agreed! We are always interesting to hear about these high-houred tractors, the more hours on the clock, the better.

Regards
R Day

 

[massey765]

i would like to see a bit on match ploughing not just bonnet polishing and road runs

 

[John 1594]

quoted from the article

"Does the CaseIH 1594 deserve to be declared the winner? The answer is, probably not"

Now i know there are a lot more IH fans than DB ones, and you have to pander to everyones preference and try and please the majority of people

And yes there probably are a lot of disgusted IH fans out there after reading the article, but fact of the matter is the article doesnt really reflect what happened on the day imo

Thing is, and this has been discussed in other places too, what ever tractor you put against a DB, be it a Ford, MF, IH or a deere, the DB will awlays loose in print purely because its the less popular machine

why would someone buy a magazine that has shown their pride and joy being beaten by something that supposedly leaks oil, breaks cranks and eats gearboxes for breakfast?

 

[multi power]

quoted from the article

"Does the CaseIH 1594 deserve to be declared the winner? The answer is, probably not"

Now i know there are a lot more IH fans than DB ones, and you have to pander to everyones preference and try and please the majority of people

And yes there probably are a lot of disgusted IH fans out there after reading the article, but fact of the matter is the article doesnt really reflect what happened on the day imo

Thing is, and this has been discussed in other places too, what ever tractor you put against a DB, be it a Ford, MF, IH or a deere, the DB will awlays loose in print purely because its the less popular machine

why would someone buy a magazine that has shown their pride and joy being beaten by something that supposedly leaks oil, breaks cranks and eats gearboxes for breakfast?

@John 1594 i know how you feel, im forever getting stick about my massey n its primitive 3 stick box, but the fact is it will do anything a more modern machine will do,i recon it would give that 956 a bit of embarresment

 

[rorsday]

"i would like to see a bit on match ploughing not just bonnet polishing and road runs"

Massey765 - this is an interesting comment. May I ask what magazine you are reading because Classic Tractor doesn't cover road runs and we mostly feature working classics in good condition? It is true to say that we don't cover match ploughing, largely because it tends to be very regional and it is also very difficult to project the quality of the ploughing being undertaken in pictures taken from ground level.

John - I know the author of the article, Simon Henley, who is a bit of a DB fan himself, tried to be fair. We must remember that what happened on the day was influenced by the settings on your fuel pump and the power of the 956XL, which was below what it should have been. It has indeed been discussed many times and we accept that it was an unfair comparison, but one that we were obliged to undertake because everyone, yourself included, have been good enough to turn up on the day and be good sports. It was something different and entertaining.

As to whether there are more IH/Case IH fans than DB fans, well that is very debatable. There is a very good owners club for David Brown with over 1500 very enthusiastic members and there is NO club for IH and no members.

Regards
R Day

 

[blackbob]

i would like to see a bit on match ploughing not just bonnet polishing and road runs

You sure you're looking in the same mag? Classic Tractor is mostly about machines still earning their keep working, not being played with.
The collecting and road runs are more 'Tractors & Machinery' to name one mag, they used to mention ploughing matches briefly too

 

[massey765]

yep, maybe iam generalising a bit
but match ploughing , the tractors are being used for what they were designed for and a fair share use classic tractors
there must be a few retired ploughmen with an interesting tale or two and maybe a few tips
cos i dont think any other comics are doing owt
a results section would be ok

 

[rorsday]

massey765
You are right, some expert tips from top ploughmen would be good. I don't think we will see a results section because this could end up filling up a lot of space and once you accept published set of results, it would open the floodgates. It's a bit the same with road run reports. It's possibly better to be consistent and have a policy in place, rather appearing to show favouritism to certain events and not others.

I believe there are other tractor magazines that do cover the match ploughing scene.

R Day

 

[Thick Farmer]

I will try my 8100 against your 1594 John.

 

[ianw]

I will try my 8100 against your 1594 John.

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That's a tidy looker,nice to see