Agriculture as we know it

[glasshouse]

As an example of the public's knowledge of and understanding of farming, I saw someone on the TV last night saying that if there's a shortage of people to butcher pigs "surely the farmers can just keep them until there are more butchers"

They know nowt and care less.

Boris was equally thick with his answer
Carrie antoinette said let them eat cake

 

[willie waver]

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

so NFU have passed the carbon footprint of fertiliser plants on to us

and they are on our side !

ffs wake up guys if you are still a member and cancel NOW

I cancelled mine a few years back. NFU/UFU only look after themselves, not their members.

 

[Clive]

Is that unfair considering we need it like fuel and electricity? I would argue that if CO2 production is so important then others should share the fertiliser footprint

so you are saying Yara ( Europe’s biggest commercial gas buyer) are carbon neutral it’s all the farmers footprint

mad ! (Unless you are saying all farms are carbon neutral as well as well because our carbon can be passed down to our customers the grain merchants and supermarket)

are you Minette ?

 

[Clive]

 

[puppet]

so you are saying Yara ( Europe’s biggest commercial gas buyer) are carbon neutral it’s all the farmers footprint

mad ! (Unless you are saying all farms are carbon neutral as well as well because our carbon can be passed down to our customers the grain merchants and supermarket)

are you Minette ?

You have made a fair few assumptions there from science to mental health to gender.

I'll get you to do my next carbon audit as last time I looked all the inputs - feed and straw passed on from arable farmers, leccy, fuel AND fertiliser from multinationals were in the minus column. Just need to ignore all those and a few farting cows and I will be massively carbon positive and can sell some credits to the arable farmers who need to offset all that metal and fuel.

Whatever you think of NFU, they didn't make the carbon calculator

 

[DrWazzock]

I'm the only farmer in the village!
There are other people farming land in the village but from afar.
It's farming but not as we know it, Jim.

 

[DrWazzock]

Personally I think it will all blow over though.
I'm just concentrating on trying to do a reasonable job in turbulent times.
All the media stuff is hot air and froth.
Ignore it. Most do.

 

[whiteford]

This coming year could well be the year of changed perceptions towards farmers.

There will undoubtedly be a vast reduction in production of milling wheat leading to a very tight supply of flour.

Can you see where I'm going with this.

No farmers no food campaign hasn't been a great success I'd say.

How about 'pay more for your food or there won't be any on the shelves'

 

[DaveGrohl]

As an example of the public's knowledge of and understanding of farming, I saw someone on the TV last night saying that if there's a shortage of people to butcher pigs "surely the farmers can just keep them until there are more butchers"

They know nowt and care less.

You say that as if their question is utterly idiotic. Put yourself in their shoes, shoes that have no knowledge at all about farming apart from the relentless negative bollox they're fed by the media (and supermarkets). Seems a perfectly reasonable question to ask when you have no knowledge base.

 

[DaveGrohl]

This coming year could well be the year of changed perceptions towards farmers.

There will undoubtedly be a vast reduction in production of milling wheat leading to a very tight supply of flour.

Can you see where I'm going with this.

No farmers no food campaign hasn't been a great success I'd say.

How about 'pay more for your food or there won't be any on the shelves'

Reckon the supermarkets will luuurve your slogan. And they can paint themselves as the heroes yet again while trousering virtually all of the money. Don't forget they've all that expensive leccy to buy as well, adding on a nice margin and blaming Putin. Shooting fish in a barrel.

 

[whiteford]

Reckon the supermarkets will luuurve your slogan. And they can paint themselves as the heroes yet again while trousering virtually all of the money. Don't forget they've all that expensive leccy to buy as well, adding on a nice margin and blaming Putin. Shooting fish in a barrel.

Are you suggesting that while 'trousering' all the money, they might pull our trousers down...... dont worry the NFU, accreditation agencies and various governing bodies of agriculture would never allow that to happen

 

[jondear]

Wrong target. It's corporate control of the food chain you want to be countering.

edit: There's only one news story to be watching this weekend, and it isn't vegan sausages or tree planters.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/prime-minister-appoints-expert-supply-chain-advisor

Oh feck!

 

[Rookie]

Fallow fields near houses and villages, when asked why, just explain its not viable to grow food anymore.

Joe Bloggs would prefer fallow fields next to them, as its somewhere to walk dogs, dump garden waste, ride motorbikes / quads on. And no spraying, smelly manures or noisy farm machinery to worry about.
Food wise they are'nt bothered. We can import it. You'd have thought brexit / covid would have focused their minds about food security but soon forgotten.
Not sure what the answer is unfortunately.

 

[delilah]

Oh feck!

Quite.
You have to wonder who he will have on his Supply Chain Advisory Board. And whether those representing our particular link in the chain will be up to the job. Which is doubtful, seeing as so few within the industry understand what the issues and solutions actually are.

 

[JP1]

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times

www.thetimes.co.uk

 

[Farfrae]

Are we facing what can only be described as a farming endangerment?

Nope the world has changed forever and it's all part of a plan as traditional capitalism has reached it's end point. The new agenda seeks to repurpose the 'green agenda'.

It is all out there in the open in Klaus Schwab's book 'The Great Reset' and Covid 19 was used as the 'starting pistol'. In actual fact Covid 19 was just a fairly normal respiratory virus (I'm not saying that no one has died BTW; just as they did previously with Swine flu etc.) but you wouldn't think so from the way our world has been destroyed.

Klaus Schwab said ‘The changes we have already seen in response to Covid-19 prove that a reset of our economic and social foundations is possible. This is our best chance to instigate stakeholder capitalism’.

The 'Climate Emegency' is of course the next weapon in the armoury

I've posted this before and I'll probably post it again. Researchers at the Universities of Cambridge, Oxford, Nottingham, Bath and Imperial College London, published the Absolute Zero report about how the UK could meet it's 'climate ambitions'. I suggest that you study the 'Food' row very carefully. Full document here

Absolute Zero

In a new report titled Absolute Zero, published today (Friday 29 November), by the UK Fires research collaboration, the authors reveal that the UK could meet its climate ambitions in the short term “with incremental changes in today’s technologies”. By focusing on technologies that can be...

www.eng.cam.ac.uk

Basically people need to get their heads of their posteria and start to wake up.

 

[wrenbird]

I would worry more about the food section of the above if I hadn’t read some of the other sections, as in “all shipping to cease”, and everything else is to be powered by electricity, which will be generated by wind and solar, which can‘t supply anything like we consume now, so how is the extra demand to be met? I can see more than a few problems in the above wish list, also “use of cement to be phased out”, would someone like to pop along and give China a heads up on that one.

 

[Muddyroads]

Nope the world has changed forever and it's all part of a plan as traditional capitalism has reached it's end point. The new agenda seeks to repurpose the 'green agenda'.

It is all out there in the open in Klaus Schwab's book 'The Great Reset' and Covid 19 was used as the 'starting pistol'. In actual fact Covid 19 was just a fairly normal respiratory virus (I'm not saying that no one has died BTW; just as they did previously with Swine flu etc.) but you wouldn't think so from the way our world has been destroyed.

Klaus Schwab said ‘The changes we have already seen in response to Covid-19 prove that a reset of our economic and social foundations is possible. This is our best chance to instigate stakeholder capitalism’.

The 'Climate Emegency' is of course the next weapon in the armoury

I've posted this before and I'll probably post it again. Researchers at the Universities of Cambridge, Oxford, Nottingham, Bath and Imperial College London, published the Absolute Zero report about how the UK could meet it's 'climate ambitions'. I suggest that you study the 'Food' row very carefully. Full document here

Absolute Zero

In a new report titled Absolute Zero, published today (Friday 29 November), by the UK Fires research collaboration, the authors reveal that the UK could meet its climate ambitions in the short term “with incremental changes in today’s technologies”. By focusing on technologies that can be...

www.eng.cam.ac.uk

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Basically people need to get their heads of their posteria and start to wake up.

Can someone more eloquent than me sum up the impracticality and hypocrisy of the food line in this?
”Beef and lamb phased out, use of fertilisers greatly reduced”.

 

[Kevtherev]

One of my points was the traditional beef and sheep that are raised in this area with minimal fertiliser use.
Locally produced with minimal food miles creating the patchwork of fields and woodland as we see here.
What else is there to add?
Massive abundance of bird&mammals in that patchwork.