That’s my spend to date INCLUSIVE of seed, royalty and £160 / ha of N !
Sprays only circa £70 pet ha of that
Gate closed until harvest apart from podstick now
agronomy
- Thread starter holly smoke
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That’s my spend to date INCLUSIVE of seed, royalty and £160 / ha of N !
Sprays only circa £70 pet ha of that
Gate closed until harvest apart from podstick now
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
I put everything thought buying group most stuff I order myself but bits and pieces he orders and books through the group but you do have to check they're run off the mill products which the group can check against. A exclusive priduct is still going to be dear through the group because there's nothing else with that specific amount of sparioxomine ect in it to compare against.
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Re. The growth reg comment, you get more straw with a full PGR programme as it encourages the other tillers to perform
Well done - by spelling it wrong you managed to get it through the swear-word filter
You have not inspired me to get my agronomist down to £2/ac. That will be tomorrows job.
holly smoke
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- Location
- between the sea and the moor
But when it’s only a foot tall it isn’t going to go flat
- Location
- Ashbourne, Derbyshire
Thats not what i meant, instead of having 1 dominant stem and a few weak tillers without PGR, a correct PGR programme would have the main stem slightly shorter but the tillers performing better with grain and straw yields
T0 and T1 timings are when PGRs should be applied, flag leaf is too late, without seeing the crop i think your agronomist is technically correct with this.
But since going from serviced agronomy to doing it myself i have seen a huge difference in what im paying
T0 and T1 timings are when PGRs should be applied, flag leaf is too late, without seeing the crop i think your agronomist is technically correct with this.
But since going from serviced agronomy to doing it myself i have seen a huge difference in what im paying
holly smoke
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- Location
- between the sea and the moor
Oh sorry we haven’t put a growth reg on at all some crops look really good but 18 acre is a bit on the thin side which might have benefited from what you say
- Location
- North Coast of Cornwall
Good morning, I'm convinced that I would be able to save money and grow better crops if I source inputs myself rather than serviced agronomy. But I don't have a basis qualification though, am I flying close to the wind by self prescribing?
- Location
- S E Glos
If your adviser is BASIS qualified you are OK (Adviser doesn't have to visit farm, works for many of our members)
You need a BASIS qualified person to provide a recommendation to satisfy red tractor and cross compliance I believe
This might be a good time to mention that TFF is currently involved with a new start up “virtual agronomy” service that will use tech to bridge the gap between field and advice, leveraging a team of specialists whilst providing a much lower cost route to independant agronomy for us farmers but still with options to have a agronomist on farm via a combination of physical and “virtual” visits and team colabaration
If all goes to plan it will launch this autumn
- Location
- North Coast of Cornwall
That would be something I would be really interested in
- Location
- the brecks norfolk
I may be wrong but I thought the QA man told me you can do your own agronomy with out any assistance from a basis qualified advisor but it was looked upon favourably and they wouldn't dig so deep if you had a advisers registration number to give them.
If you go down the independent route you can expect to save 10% of your current spray bill as a minimum, there will also be significant savings from using reduced rates, the right products for the job (not the product with the greatest profit margin for the company selling it) and not including potentially unnecessary products. I' be very surprised if the saving didn't add up to 20% of your current bill!
- Location
- Wiltshire
Join niab, then you will be able to call the regional agronomists. That should tick the red tractor box i do know somebody who does it this way. Doing basis is also worthwhile i learnt a lot from doing it.
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We've just started a virtual agronomy trial, very un official so far but hopefully it will grow.
We don't have local access to agronomists so thought this would be a good fit.
WhatsApp, email, video call all make sharing info, advice and problems easy.
Ahdb, qms and sruc are all involved up here and it's being done through the monitor farm.
- Location
- CW5 Cheshire
This is what I did for years without problem, but then decided to do BASIS myself. I think it is perfectly legal to do your own agronomy, it's the QA lot that get funny about it.
At my last QA visit the inspector asked me for all the spray rec's as this is now a requirement of theirs. My answer was that I don't write down recommendations to myself, stopped him in his tracks for a few seconds, but he accepted it.
- Location
- Wiltshire
I use an independent agronomist, I decided that even though I have done BASIS I cant keep up with the technical information to make the right decision and do all the other work I do. I had my inspection this week and the inspector has again used my BASIS number and not the 1 for the agronomist. Inspector didnt ask for the reccs from the agronomist just the record of where everything went and the conditions.
It seems like different inspectors may be interpreting the rules differently.
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- Location
- CW5 Cheshire
I thought you had to have full recommendations now following the changes to crop assurance in October? In a similar position, BASIS qualified but don't keep up with the register, so paying my main supplier to do the recommendations. Proper pain crop assurance and our current inspector is overly militant. Failed last autumn due to not having a certificate from SWW proving that the mains water filling our main spray tank was not of drinking water quality!!!! This turned out to be rubbish for combinable crops following a complaint and the little stickers arrived shortly after........