AN EXTRA 3MILLION MORE PEOPLE, YET MORE HOUSES TO BUILD?

[bluebell]

a simple basic question, if the people from hong kong come here and it said on the news up to 3 million were will they live? how many more thousands of acres of land will have to be used to build these houses ? where will it end ?

 

[Lincs Lass]

Then how much more flooding would it create when its covered in concrete

 

[teslacoils]

Since Lincoln opened its uni, its population will have almost doubled. Young people. The city is completely rejuvenated. New shops, restaurants, etc.

No people = no services.

They are all welcome here, in the land of no buses, no broadband, no libraries etc. If Immingham became the Freeport of New Hong Kong it would be a huge boon for the economy.

 

[Wombat]

I am more than happy to donate a 100 acres or so for a fee

 

[bluebell]

thats the plus side ? whenever the question of immigration ever comes up its always the pluses, yes but what about the minuses ?

 

[DrWazzock]

10’s of thousands of acres of Lincolnshire farmland, shiny new kit and sheds is subsidised by development land sales, house building and of course vacuum cleaners.
Farming is just an interesting hobby with a nice lifestyle that keeps the land tidy and saves tax.
It’s been like that for at least 400 years particularly on the marginal land that doesn’t yield much agriculturally but looks pretty.
So the farmland sits there like this huge bank of untapped development wealth, slowly trickled out by the planners. If it wasn’t for development and amenity demand created by the rest of the economy it would be worth 10% of what it is now.
So immigration is a mixed blessing. Alright if you are benefiting from the economic it creates, not so good if you are caught up in the thick of it competing for a room in shared house as I once was. But I wasn’t trapped in that situation. Have a thought for those who are. There are millions of them.

 

[Lowland1]

Surely a main reason for the success of the Brexit groups was the antipathy towards the large numbers of eastern Europeans flooding unchecked into the country. So now they want to exchange these for Hong Kong Chinese. Good plan.

 

[bluebell]

i agree about the fact that an acre of agricultural land is worth say 10,000 pounds, yet if it has permisson for development, housing etc that acre then can be worth in the right location 1.5 million ? so it must fuel the wealth of farmers, who then can roll the massive gain in value in yet more land purshase to set off the tax due ? so the bigger the land owner becomes the more chances of this happening, a snowball effect?

 

[bluebell]

land to build on is finete, there not making anymore of it ? once that field is built on thats it its gone ? trouble is and in my area in the southeast the demand for housing is very big and land suitable for large scale development declines as the land is built on so you then run into the problems of developments being built on land that floods yes floods or will flood? its not like canada, australia the new countries the UK apprecially around london has always been heavilly populated ?

 

[DrWazzock]

Since Lincoln opened its uni, its population will have almost doubled. Young people. The city is completely rejuvenated. New shops, restaurants, etc.

No people = no services.

They are all welcome here, in the land of no buses, no broadband, no libraries etc. If Immingham became the Freeport of New Hong Kong it would be a huge boon for the economy.

Services permanently lag behind people and overcrowding spreads outward like a blight. The services in densely populated areas can be pretty dire due the high levels of deprivation and crime that seem to arise.
I’m not thinking of moving to Birmingham in a hurry. I have lived that life. Fine if you are very rich, but if you are anything less than very rich it’s a grind.
This economic growth is a mixed blessing. It can destroy the very things that people hope to spend the proceeds on.

 

[teslacoils]

If they needed say 300ac to build a new airport; a new hospital, schools, infrastructure then you'd find a queue of farmers happy to sell. Plenty of land. More folk, especially young, hard working, educated folk is s total boon. Sorry if folk in the south don't see it, but once you're north of Cambridge this country is pee poor and crying out for folk.

 

[teslacoils]

Any South Asian family wanting to swap with me more than welcome. To think Mrs teslacoils recently vetoed a 120ac island with pineapple and coconut plantation.

 

[DrWazzock]

i agree about the fact that an acre of agricultural land is worth say 10,000 pounds, yet if it has permisson for development, housing etc that acre then can be worth in the right location 1.5 million ? so it must fuel the wealth of farmers, who then can roll the massive gain in value in yet more land purshase to set off the tax due ? so the bigger the land owner becomes the more chances of this happening, a snowball effect?

That’s true. Has been for thousands of years really. What’s the alternative? Some kind of communist state. Doesn’t seem to work out well for the ordinary man either.
Thing is though, no matter how much you acquire you don’t live for ever, are never really satisfied and it’s quite common to self destruct it all anyway. So usually it ends up getting shared out sooner or later.

 

[bluebell]

the area around london might as well be another country in every respect ? the shocking fact is most of the wealth of the UK comes from one small part of the UK that is around london the southeast ? the breakup of the UK is a fine ideal but economically Northern ireland Wales and Scotland could not fund their economies without the big amounts from the southeast? a very sad but true fact

 

[Lowland1]

Actually invite them all. Concrete some more farm land preferably grade 1 vegetable growing stuff which will reduce the UKs ability to feed its population and will require even more food to be imported. I know the Chinese are partial to broccoli so it is good news for me.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Any South Asian family wanting to swap with me more than welcome. To think Mrs teslacoils recently vetoed a 120ac island with pineapple and coconut plantation.

I will come and work for you in the summer holidays. We will turn the pineapple plantation into a plantation for growing cocaine. We cannot lose.

 

[teslacoils]

I will come and work for you in the summer holidays. We will turn the pineapple plantation into a plantation for growing cocaine. We cannot lose.

Only our hands via machettes. It wasn't dear. The idea was to go 1/4 shares with some old friends.

 

[teslacoils]

the shocking fact is most of the wealth of the UK comes from one small part of the UK that is around london the southeast ?

True facts.

Our economy is reliant on the tax avoidance industry and "media" services.

Our balance of payments relies on overseas investors buying UK property, mainly in London.

We are the world centre of money laundering.

Forget "green and pleasant land". Get some more folk in. 10m young educated Asians - I'd find ten million Brits you could dump in the North sea to make space.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Only our hands via machettes. It wasn't dear. The idea was to go 1/4 shares with some old friends.

Of course, needs to be done by hand to avoid the spy satellites.

 

[deleted user 837354]

Since Lincoln opened its uni, its population will have almost doubled. Young people. The city is completely rejuvenated. New shops, restaurants, etc.

No people = no services.

They are all welcome here, in the land of no buses, no broadband, no libraries etc. If Immingham became the Freeport of New Hong Kong it would be a huge boon for the economy.

I think welcoming 3 million folk from Hong Kong is a smart move. The bulk of these are actually wealthy Chinese folk. It will kick the property market and therefore construction in the backside just when it is needed. If the government organise it cleverly, these people will bring skills, wealth and work ethic with them along with their capital. The government can use initiatives locally to spread the housing and demand across the country rather than just in London. These people won't be just office cleaners to take over from those in Eastern Europe. Oh no.

This is also a spectacular diplomatic coup at a time when America's foreign policy has been anti-world. Massive poke in the eye to the Chinese government who have ruled Hong Kong with an iron fist and been very draconian. Smart move if you ask me. These people aren't poor- the average salary in Hong Kong is in excess of 70,000 USD. The average age is 45 years so you have 3 million odd consumers who are wealthy, smart and fairly young. Taken like this it makes a lot more sense than taking in 1 million Eastern Europeans.