and here come the NFU....

[Tarw Coch]

Just to be even handed in my opinion Goldsmiths should refuse to take students or employ lecturers who fly more than once a year.

Why once a year? I suspect you could eat quite a few beef burgers to equal the carbon footprint of a long haul flight.

 

[Matt78]

The NFU is calling on the government to make a strong commitment to British farming to ensure a secure supply of home-grown food for shoppers after new figures put the UK’s self-sufficiency at 61%.
The call comes on 11 August, the day the country would notionally have run out of food if we had only eaten British food from 1 January 2019. The NFU’s ambition is for British farming to produce more food for a growing population while at the same time delivering on an ambitious plan to achieve net zero in agricultural emissions by 2040.
NFU President Minette Batters said:
“British farming has a great story to tell. From West Country Red Tractor assured beef to Welsh lamb, Cumbrian sausages to Kent strawberries, and Herefordshire apples to Wensleydale cheese – our farmers and growers are delivering some of the highest quality food in the world.
“But we also deliver so much more. When people buy British food they are buying into standards that protect and enhance our natural resources and iconic landscapes. They are buying into world-leading standards of animal welfare, and they are buying into the role farmers are playing in combatting the climate change challenge that is facing us all.

“We need a clear pledge from government that it will not let our current self-sufficiency levels fall below today’s 61%. Our self-sufficiency has declined over recent years and our political leaders need to take this seriously. While we will never be completely self-sufficient as a country it is vital that Britain takes its role as a food producer for its growing population seriously and does not rely on the rest of the world – with wildly varying standards of production – to feed our population which is likely to grow to 73 million people in 20 years’ time.


“British farming is the backbone of the country’s largest manufacturing industry; food and drink. It contributes more than £120 billion to the UK economy and employs almost four million people.
“In the next few weeks we will have a once-in-a-generation opportunity to shape our future. I hope today acts a wake-up call for all those in power to look at what can be gained and also what is at stake.”

That's why I've never understood the hysteria from farmers over Brexit you cant even feed yourselves not even close what an opportunity for British ag the NFU should be all over it like calamine lotion you only get one shot.
I'm not saying you could produce what you need its all about branding and red tape

 

[kfpben]

Why once a year? I suspect you could eat quite a few beef burgers to equal the carbon footprint of a long haul flight.

A person going vegan for a year is equivalent to cutting out half the CO2 of one passenger’s flight from London to New York.

Source: Frank Mitloehner Climate Change with Animal Science professor University of California.

 

[ollie989898]

A person going vegan for a year is equivalent to cutting out half the CO2 of one passenger’s flight from London to New York.

Source: Frank Mitloehner Climate Change with Animal Science professor University of California.

That doesn't really constitute a source....

 

[Tarw Coch]

A person going vegan for a year is equivalent to cutting out half the CO2 of one passenger’s flight from London to New York.

Source: Frank Mitloehner Climate Change with Animal Science professor University of California.

There is allways the argument that one is natural and one is not, humans have evolved as a species as omnivores but not to fly, we have to burn fossil fuels and use all sorts of industrial processes to create the components of an aeroplane, all of which will have some sort of impact on the planet. Not that any of us want to go back to living in caves and mud huts but it does show that the real problem is mankind and modern living which is the real problem not livestock and our diet.

 

[icanshootwell]

So if Humans are being blamed for climate change and therefore causing a potential ice age in the not to distant future. Who got the blame when the last ice age happened 22,000 years ago. Those bloody cave men and there camp fires. No sorry cave people.

 

[delilah]

Credit where it is due. Thought I would have a look at NFU online to see if they had put anything up relevant to the onslaught beef is under, and there's a post today. Good.
One thing though, the opening line is
'Want to cut down your food miles to food metres? '
Someone needs to explain that one to me ?! That would mean everyone having a bullock in their back garden

 

[Henarar]

Credit where it is due. Thought I would have a look at NFU online to see if they had put anything up relevant to the onslaught beef is under, and there's a post today. Good.
One thing though, the opening line is
'Want to cut down your food miles to food metres? '
Someone needs to explain that one to me ?! That would mean everyone having a bullock in their back garden

Ours for next year is three fields away at the moment the lamb is a bit more than that but still less than a mile

 

[spin cycle]

A person going vegan for a year is equivalent to cutting out half the CO2 of one passenger’s flight from London to New York.

Source: Frank Mitloehner Climate Change with Animal Science professor University of California.

seems a big saving to me ...but kudos for researching

spinning that a vegan has to go 4 years before saving enough for a return flight

 

[Tarw Coch]

seems a big saving to me ...but kudos for researching

spinning that a vegan has to go 4 years before saving enough for a return flight

Or a meat eater like myself who has never been on a long haul flight has done much less environmental damage than some celebrity globe trotting vegan environmental campaigner.

 

[Henarar]

seems a big saving to me ...but kudos for researching

spinning that a vegan has to go 4 years before saving enough for a return flight

I was thinking how good it was that I can carry on eating meat and the vegans can all go to America

 

[texas pete]

I was thinking how good it was that I can carry on eating meat and the vegans can all go to America

Or if we crowdfund, they can all go to the f**king moon.....there's no meat there.

Better use of NFU subs and AHDB levy maybe.

 

[gone up the hill]

Credit where it is due. Thought I would have a look at NFU online to see if they had put anything up relevant to the onslaught beef is under, and there's a post today. Good.
One thing though, the opening line is
'Want to cut down your food miles to food metres? '
Someone needs to explain that one to me ?! That would mean everyone having a bullock in their back garden

Utter waste of time the NFU putting something on their website because the general public will not go looking for a farming unions website to gather information!

What the NFU NEEDS AND MUST DO is get information on the BBC breakfast news/ six o clock news/ facebook/ twitter/ general media sites etc etc!

NFU are currently badly letting down each and every one of YOU that are a NFU member with their lack of media coverage on the issues that the industry has sustained the last few days!

 

[gone up the hill]

Or if we crowdfund, they can all go to the fudgeing moon.....there's no meat there.

Better use of NFU subs and AHDB levy maybe.

AHDB are an UTTER DISGRACE!

 

[kfpben]

Utter waste of time the NFU putting something on their website because the general public will not go looking for a farming unions website to gather information!

What the NFU NEEDS AND MUST DO is get information on the BBC breakfast news/ six o clock news/ facebook/ twitter/ general media sites etc etc!

NFU are currently badly letting down each and every one of YOU that are a NFU member with their lack of media coverage on the issues that the industry has sustained the last few days!

 

[gone up the hill]

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Well what they are doing is NOT working as it has had very little if any effect/coverage in the media/ online forums etc!

 

[kfpben]

Highly unfair to claim the NFU are doing nothing. Personally I have never felt my membership has been more worthwhile. The top 3 office holders are giving their all under highly challenging circumstances.

It is all of our duty to fight the lies being spread about livestock farming.

 

[gone up the hill]

Highly unfair to claim the NFU are doing nothing. Personally I have never felt my membership has been more worthwhile. The top 3 office holders are giving their all under highly challenging circumstances.

It is all of our duty to fight the lies being spread about livestock farming.

What about the 1000s of other NFU staff/ office holders??


Go onto any media site and you will find plenty of comments from the anti farming brigade, try and find a comment from the NFU on the same sites and you will have more chance of finding a needle in a haystack!


What the NFU is doing just ISNT working!

 

[Chris F]

That doesn't really constitute a source....

Also the carbon footprint of a vegan in California, is massively lower than that of a vegan in the UK. A vegan easily eats 80kg (or the weight of a passenger) worth of food flown from North/South America to the UK. Which rather would negate the saving of said amount of carbon.

 

[kfpben]

What about the 1000s of other NFU staff/ office holders??


Go onto any media site and you will find plenty of comments from the anti farming brigade, try and find a comment from the NFU on the same sites and you will have more chance of finding a needle in a haystack!


What the NFU is doing just ISNT working!

I think you might have a slightly overblown view of the size of the NFU.

The media tends to want to interview the top dogs from a representative organisation- not Joe Bloggs farmer. The number of people willing to be grilled live on national media is pretty small. I am glad the top office holders do it as it means there’s more chance of a good result for farming and less chance of some maniac farmer with his trousers held up with twine ranting about ‘effing veggies’.