WHO: Obesity in Europe at ‘epidemic proportions’
Report flags meal delivery apps as possibly contributing to the obesity problem.
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And they say we're fatties
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ollie989898
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WHO: Obesity in Europe at ‘epidemic proportions’
Report flags meal delivery apps as possibly contributing to the obesity problem.
Obesity is surely the number 1 disease in the developed world I'd say. Bodies might only have been built within the last 100 years but they were all designed 200,000 years ago.
Is it poor diet or lack of exercise , ie work .
ollie989898
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Both.
I realised that typing
M-J-G
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The term obese is often thrown around a bit loosely.
I'm 5'10 and around 15 stone and I'm classed as obese.
My "ideal" weight is 9st 3lb - 12st 7lb.
I was 11 and a half stone when I was 18 and I was like a pull through for a rifle, if I'd been as light as 9st 3 I'd have been like a welfare case.
Even when I cut weight for kickboxing in my 20s I'd struggle to be below 11½ stone and I was training 4 nights a week as well as working
I'm 5'10 and around 15 stone and I'm classed as obese.
My "ideal" weight is 9st 3lb - 12st 7lb.
I was 11 and a half stone when I was 18 and I was like a pull through for a rifle, if I'd been as light as 9st 3 I'd have been like a welfare case.
Even when I cut weight for kickboxing in my 20s I'd struggle to be below 11½ stone and I was training 4 nights a week as well as working
ollie989898
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The trouble is the terminology isn't an issue- the way of defining it is, and much discussion is being made about how the BMI measure is simply not fit for purpose for many individuals. There is some suggestion that a waist: height ratio is more useful. Of course you could be very heavy for your height and be totally healthy- i.e mostly muscle mass, not extraneous fat.
Paddington
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Last time I was weighed by the nurse she told me I was clinically obese,( but not fat). If it's any consolation the Welsh Rugby team are all obese, but no one likes to tell them.
grainboy
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At physio for treatment yesterday,
In conversation, she told me, she upset a friend who was complaining her doctor couldn’t sort her aches and pains,
She told her friend she was overweight, what did she expect, !!
In conversation, she told me, she upset a friend who was complaining her doctor couldn’t sort her aches and pains,
She told her friend she was overweight, what did she expect, !!
Wow, a doctor who’s not afraid to tell it like it is. Rare indeed.
Sadly, as with everything, America leads and everyone follows. They’ve exported their obesity to the rest of the world. Ancel Keys was American. He will eventually be recognised as being responsible for more premature deaths than anyone in history. Sadly, it’s only now starting to be recognised how his role in all this is crucial.
Reduction of exercise over the decades is a big factor of course, to the point where for some people pressing deliveroo on their phone counts as exercise. As @ollie989898 says, we’re not designed to sit about all day never mind sit about all day eating crap. But simply doing more exercise does not make a bad diet into a good one. You can still succumb to the full range of metabolic diseases. But here we are in 2022 and 95% of people are still scared of eating fat. They are still being told to eat low fat and count the calories. Thanks Ancel Keys. And thanks to all the politicians who allowed big business to make this happen and turbocharge it.
Reduction of exercise over the decades is a big factor of course, to the point where for some people pressing deliveroo on their phone counts as exercise. As @ollie989898 says, we’re not designed to sit about all day never mind sit about all day eating crap. But simply doing more exercise does not make a bad diet into a good one. You can still succumb to the full range of metabolic diseases. But here we are in 2022 and 95% of people are still scared of eating fat. They are still being told to eat low fat and count the calories. Thanks Ancel Keys. And thanks to all the politicians who allowed big business to make this happen and turbocharge it.
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ollie989898
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Food/diet is the bigger factor in reality because of simple maths. Everyone is familiar with Costa, just a large hot chocolate from costa, made with semi-skimmed milk is near as makes no difference, 400 calories. 400 calories is enough energy to sustain the average person as they run run between 3 and 4 miles. Who here is running 3 to 4 miles after every costa they buy? You can soon see that the diet we have access to is way in excess of our average ability to burn it.
And of course, calories per say is a crap way of measuring obesity potential.
I can quite truthfully say that I have run 3 or 4 miles after every costa I have bought
Tarw Coch
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How many costas did you say you’d bought
one less than oneHow many costas did you say you’d bought
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The place where I see the fattest people is hospitals, primarily the critical care/high dependency unit/heart attack units. The nurses are all fat as f***. You get thinner people working in McDonald’s.
I’m 6’2” and when I was 12.5st I went to the doctors to do with my firearm license and the doctor who was over 30st and couldn’t fit on his chair told me I was overweight. I laughed at him and told him he was the fat one not me - he moved on shortly afterwards after telling several people who were thin/about right that they were overweight and some really grilled into him, this guy looked like the comic book store guy from the Simpsons.
Work people need and lots of it! I have never gone over 13st (circa 80kg) but over lambing this year even with eating as much as I could and fitting an extra 2 meals a day in I lost 7kg in 6 weeks.
I’m 6’2” and when I was 12.5st I went to the doctors to do with my firearm license and the doctor who was over 30st and couldn’t fit on his chair told me I was overweight. I laughed at him and told him he was the fat one not me - he moved on shortly afterwards after telling several people who were thin/about right that they were overweight and some really grilled into him, this guy looked like the comic book store guy from the Simpsons.
Work people need and lots of it! I have never gone over 13st (circa 80kg) but over lambing this year even with eating as much as I could and fitting an extra 2 meals a day in I lost 7kg in 6 weeks.